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Voltaire2

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4. Thomas Nagel argues that we can never

Reply to MineralMan (Original post)

Sat May 19, 2018, 11:51 AM

May 2018

know what it is to have the subjective experience of another consciousness in “what is it like to be a bat”. Daniel Dennet thinks consciousness is not some irreducible non physical essence, and that with enough knowledge and data we will be able to understand the experiential side of consciousness.

These days an interesting question reframes Nagel to ask what it is like to be an ai entity. At what point, if ever, will ai devices have experiential sensations?

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Is the Sense of Wonder Restricted Only to Humans? [View all] MineralMan May 2018 OP

That sounds like it was a very meaningful experience. 3catwoman3 May 2018 #1

Thanks for following the post here. MineralMan May 2018 #2

I think humans have, largely forgotten, or chosen to ignore... 3catwoman3 May 2018 #3

Yes, I agree. MineralMan May 2018 #6

Thomas Nagel argues that we can never Voltaire2 May 2018 #4

I agree with Nagel, but enjoy trying to imagine that experience. MineralMan May 2018 #7

Following to the religious group, I would say animals, not using the thinking mind, and akin c-rational May 2018 #5

Perhaps, but it is very important to understand that we, too, are animals. MineralMan May 2018 #8

You are correct about humans being animals, and on second thought other animals e.g. c-rational May 2018 #9

Why do you believe that animals don't think? Voltaire2 May 2018 #10

It's a pretty common belief. MineralMan May 2018 #11

"Think" as in the human trait of compulsive rumination or incessant thought. The thinking I c-rational May 2018 #12

I think animals in general are much more conscious than we give them credit for. thucythucy May 2018 #13

Is sentience a necessary component to a sense of wonder? eom guillaumeb May 2018 #14

Depending on your definition of sentience, perhaps. MineralMan May 2018 #15

Self-awareness in dogs. MineralMan May 2018 #16