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cbayer

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20. Pious fraud looks to be a different topic.

Reply to dimbear (Reply #19)

Tue May 22, 2012, 08:34 PM

May 2012

Those that use religion and lie to captivate others who actually believe are charlatans.

This OP speaks to an actual religious tenet apparently held by the Mormon church.

My objection here was to those who said this could be found in other religions.

Other than the reference to secretive, cultish sects and a single bible quote taken out of context, I have yet to see anything to back that up.

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Lying for the Lord - Relevant to Romney's campaign? [View all] daaron May 2012 OP

Romney's Mormon faith is one of the most edcantor May 2012 #1

Why did you say in the other thread that this is not unique to Mormons? cbayer May 2012 #2

I forgot I posted this. daaron May 2012 #3

This is what you said in the other thread: cbayer May 2012 #4

Thanks for the reference. daaron May 2012 #5

Ah, you were referring to these highly secretive, cultish groups cbayer May 2012 #7

Oh absolutely. daaron May 2012 #10

I have a deep and abiding distrust of Romney, but not because he is a Mormon. cbayer May 2012 #11

The real truth is that skepticscott May 2012 #12

Certainly not unknown among traditional Christians either: dimbear May 2012 #6

You are taking this completely out of context and misrepresenting it (which some might cbayer May 2012 #8

So which is more appropriate skepticscott May 2012 #9

That is a famous verse, hundreds of gallons of ink have been spilled on it, and yet dimbear May 2012 #13

Well, if christians can't agree on what it means, then how can you cbayer May 2012 #14

As a simple nonbeliever, I read the words as they are recorded. Selecting a dimbear May 2012 #15

Wow!! So you read them exactly as fundamentalist do. Thats my opinion May 2012 #16

In a sense you are correct. I take them verbatim to mock, they take them dimbear May 2012 #17

Is not your mocking an end? cbayer May 2012 #18

Certainly. End, purpose. dimbear May 2012 #19

Pious fraud looks to be a different topic. cbayer May 2012 #20

It's too much to ask of a religion that it admittedly and openly lies. dimbear May 2012 #21

I didn't mention it at the time, but the person I speak about here is a hardcore Catholic. 2ndAmForComputers May 2012 #22

In context... jeepnstein May 2012 #24

Possibly relevant: the Utah war.......Johnston's Army.......Buchanan's folly: dimbear May 2012 #23

From the Journal of Mormon History: dimbear May 2012 #25