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skepticscott

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17. Fail on all counts...typical
Wed May 23, 2012, 06:37 PM
May 2012
It seems to me that the argument at hand is about the issue of using ridicule as sound method of debate, not about me ridiculing anyone, or that the earth could be 6000 years old.

Uh, no...the argument at hand concerns claims that are so far out of line with demonstrated fact (and have been shown to be so more times than can be counted, so that a "defense of your own ideas" is ludicrously redundant) that they don't even warrant being "debated" with the evidence available, and whether such claims are unworthy of ridicule. (they are very worthy of it). And you're the one who tried to make the idea of you ridiculing someone part of the argument: "So then it's OK to openly ridicule certain views held by some atheists that I or others consider to be ridiculous?"

Bottom line: I do not nor ever have I claimed objective empirical evidence for the existence of deity. And I dare say that you cannot provide any evidence to the contrary. Unless of course, you design and define deity according to your own terms, therefore enabling you to disprove the idea that you yourself have created, which is your constant giant red herring argument.

No one in this thread claimed you did, so there's your red herring. And BTW, everyone here is on to your dodge of now calling any question you're afraid or unable to answer a "red herring". It ain't working.

And as far as ideas "that are as ridiculous" - just by what standard do you gauge the degree of how ridiculous something is?

Probably in a similar fashion to the way you gauge the degree of how "oppressive", "potentially harmful", and "extremist" something is as compared to something else.

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would like to see it lunasun May 2012 #1
It's playing at SIFF this week. HeiressofBickworth May 2012 #2
And that's why I often vote in GOP primaries. tanyev May 2012 #3
My mom did that until last year. daaron May 2012 #24
Another example of the enabling religious posters pretend does not exist dmallind May 2012 #4
It is probably not a majority... rexcat May 2012 #5
Some of us, myself included, have a slightly different take on the situation than you. humblebum May 2012 #6
Oh do tell me how politically influential atheists are working to make dmallind May 2012 #7
So then it's OK to openly ridicule certain views held by some atheists humblebum May 2012 #8
Ridicule all you want..or try to skepticscott May 2012 #10
Here comes the red herring again. humblebum May 2012 #11
You keep using that phrase. Goblinmonger May 2012 #12
Then I would suggest that you explain, because it certainly fits what I see going on, humblebum May 2012 #13
Why debate with morons? Ridicule is far more "sound" dmallind May 2012 #15
Fail on all counts...typical skepticscott May 2012 #17
At least I'm glad to see that you realize your habit of red herrings. humblebum May 2012 #21
More fail skepticscott May 2012 #27
Always spinning and avoiding aren't you? humblebum May 2012 #29
Feel free pally - and if you think ridicule is the ONLY defense against a 6000 yr old earth dmallind May 2012 #14
Where was I defending the 6000 year idea? I wasn't nor humblebum May 2012 #16
Only the opinion of someone skepticscott May 2012 #18
The intellectual bankruptcy of that position skepticscott May 2012 #19
It's one thing to defend Christianity from over-generalization. daaron May 2012 #22
It sure didn't take you long to figure out humblebum's schtick! laconicsax May 2012 #23
Thanks, I'm a quick study, daaron May 2012 #25
"Where in the post did it say atheists were rewriting history?" I give up. Where?nt humblebum May 2012 #26
Yes, this is a huge problem. trotsky May 2012 #9
Wow, that's a scary article. cbayer May 2012 #20
Here's an article from 2010 post-election. tanyev May 2012 #28
Sounds like progress. Keep up the good work. cbayer May 2012 #30
Well done, sane Texans! nt daaron May 2012 #33
I'm going to take this opportunity to recommend Katherine Stewart's book again: Rob H. May 2012 #31
It's only a war if both sides are fighting it. This is more like a slaughter or a pogrom. Sirveri May 2012 #32
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