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Voltaire2

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47. There exists a small subset of atheists who

Sat Jun 9, 2018, 07:17 PM

Jun 2018

believe there was a god but it died, so they do not believe that any gods currently exist.

I think these people (a subset of Christian atheism) are not actually atheists in that they believe that over all of time there have been moments when gods have existed, but very narrowly they have an atheist perspective on the current state of the universe.

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Show Me an Atheist Who Believes in a "Divine Presence" and [View all] MineralMan Jun 2018 OP

I'd be surprised if anybody could actually disagree with this. Croney Jun 2018 #1

There is someone in another thread who does disagree with this. MineralMan Jun 2018 #2

Oh. Well to turn it around, that's like saying Croney Jun 2018 #3

Yes, exactly. It is a contradiction in terms. MineralMan Jun 2018 #4

Well, there are in fact married bachelors marylandblue Jun 2018 #20

I knew a guy whose last name was Batchelor. MineralMan Jun 2018 #22

Not a bad song. Congratulations on your hit. marylandblue Jun 2018 #24

Not my song. MineralMan Jun 2018 #52

Not straightforward to me and my limited skill set marylandblue Jun 2018 #53

I would venture to say... quickesst Jun 2018 #5

I'm sure you are correct in that assessment. MineralMan Jun 2018 #6

I can dig it quickesst Jun 2018 #38

Ah, that one... Ron Obvious Jun 2018 #10

Oooh, I like that one. Iggo Jun 2018 #36

Same one has yet to explain how theism and deism can be inclusive Major Nikon Jun 2018 #23

Yup. MineralMan Jun 2018 #26

Thanks so much for the link to that thread rurallib Jun 2018 #25

Wasn't it Richard Dawson who said he tells his religious interlocutors that they're atheists, too-- tblue37 Jun 2018 #29

don't know about that one, but there are some darn good quotes rurallib Jun 2018 #30

I am an athiest LSFL Jun 2018 #7

LOL! MineralMan Jun 2018 #8

indeed! LSFL Jun 2018 #11

Side note Lordquinton Jun 2018 #15

I think the poster in question was referring to this poll marylandblue Jun 2018 #9

Anonymous people in a poll are not evidence. MineralMan Jun 2018 #12

I understand, but this was the best I could do marylandblue Jun 2018 #18

That someone would claim that atheists believe in a higher power is absurd LSFL Jun 2018 #19

Absurd. Yes. A good word for it, indeed. MineralMan Jun 2018 #21

I agree LSFL Jun 2018 #13

I seem to encounter that type in AA frequently. Ron Obvious Jun 2018 #14

I have run into those also marylandblue Jun 2018 #16

It's why I never could work an honest program. Iggo Jun 2018 #54

Same here. Ron Obvious Jun 2018 #57

What's the margin of error? Lordquinton Jun 2018 #17

Probably something like that marylandblue Jun 2018 #27

Honestly it's kinda like a control question Lordquinton Jun 2018 #43

maybe they are agnostic but really really really wanna be atheist... samnsara Jun 2018 #28

Was Stephen Hawkings an atheist? saidsimplesimon Jun 2018 #31

While I understand that this is your personal opinion and belief, guillaumeb Jun 2018 #32

The poll is suspect an inaccurate at the level it is trying to measure marylandblue Jun 2018 #39

So all such polls are inaccurate? guillaumeb Jun 2018 #40

See my post 9 marylandblue Jun 2018 #41

My same response applies. guillaumeb Jun 2018 #42

If a poll's methodology is suspect marylandblue Jun 2018 #45

Please post the percentage of atheists in that poll Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #48

I did not conduct the poll, nor did I compile the results. guillaumeb Jun 2018 #49

Universal Spirit could be just about anything marylandblue Jun 2018 #50

A universal spirit can be just about anything except a god, it seems. Mariana Jun 2018 #58

That might make sense from a logic perspective marylandblue Jun 2018 #60

Some Native American religions are non-theistic Major Nikon Jun 2018 #66

But you made a rather specific claim of Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #51

No, I posted a link to a Pew poll. guillaumeb Jun 2018 #55

No you claimed "Some atheists believe in a divine presence" marylandblue Jun 2018 #61

You need to go read your source again Major Nikon Jun 2018 #67

I get you have no use for literacy, but regardless the dictionary is pretty clear on the subject Major Nikon Jun 2018 #65

I can't think of any atheists JNelson6563 Jun 2018 #33

And? guillaumeb Jun 2018 #35

Um, I thought it was pertinent to the subject under discussion. JNelson6563 Jun 2018 #44

How demonstrative of your approach to dialogue. guillaumeb Jun 2018 #46

There are some. Not many, I would think. Mariana Jun 2018 #59

Well, there are "teen spirit," "school spirit," MineralMan Jun 2018 #70

Allow me: guillaumeb Jun 2018 #34

You evidently have never been touched by the magnificent. . . Stargleamer Jun 2018 #37

There exists a small subset of atheists who Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #47

40 out of 80. guillaumeb Jun 2018 #56

Irrelevant, as always. MineralMan Jun 2018 #62

Wow. That is stalkerish. Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #63

It is a habit with that person to count the number of OPs written by me MineralMan Jun 2018 #64

You seem confused about what constitutes stalking. guillaumeb Jun 2018 #71

One hopes that you will be enlightened Major Nikon Jun 2018 #72

I was being generous. Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #74

But, I'm not feeling threatened, embarrassed or harassed. MineralMan Jun 2018 #75

You also apparently have no idea. guillaumeb Jun 2018 #78

Sure, neither does wiki Major Nikon Jun 2018 #80

Stalkers often are too stupid to know they are stalking Major Nikon Jun 2018 #73

In most places, this sort of statement would be right there with "water is wet." Pope George Ringo II Jun 2018 #68

Yes. It shouldn't be needed, but is. MineralMan Jun 2018 #69

Some atheists believe in a spiritual realm Zambero Jun 2018 #76

Hmm...I've not met any such atheists. MineralMan Jun 2018 #77

Much has been written about this, but few are aware of it Zambero Jun 2018 #79