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2. So my wife is a UCC minister
Wed Jun 13, 2018, 06:10 PM
Jun 2018

Hopefully getting ordained soon. She has lived in New England for about 8 or 9 years now and I have lived here almost 3. Anyway, her first church she was at said they were ona but when we got married they were shocked. To be fair, she was married to a man prior to our relationship and we started dating while they were still married (with his consent).
They threw a huge fit when another member who had a lesbian mother bought a gay flag to put outside the church. There were several meetings where people said they were supportive of lgbtq causes but didn't feel like the church needed to advertise it. Although I never joined that church, I attended one of those meetings and stated that I had not been to church in years prior to this because I did not feel like I belonged there, but the flag made me feel welcome.
When I first started talking to my wife again (we went to college together) I told her I was willing to try church out. We were living on opposite sides of the country at that point but I told her I would go that Sunday. The first church I found was UNC and they had a rainbow flag outside. Many of the members of that church were lgbtq. It was the first time in a long time that I felt welcomed at church.
Long story short I moved to the east coast to marry my wife. She is now working at another ona church. Although we are only one of maybe three lgbtq couples there we feel so welcome. A lot of church members wear rainbow flag lapel pins every Sunday to let guests know they support our cause.
I get it. I get how exclusive religion can be but it doesn't have to be that way. For my wife's second masters she went to a school where at least 25% of the population was lgbtq. I am hoping that the more the community gets involved that we will see a trend toward inclusion. I get why people don't come. But there are people trying to make it better.

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I attend a UU church but not for religion, rather for social justice n friends nt msongs Jun 2018 #1
Thank you for that friend blur256 Jun 2018 #3
The first gay minister to come out in this country safeinOhio Jun 2018 #8
I love the UUs. If I wasn't UCC I would be one. blur256 Jun 2018 #11
I participate with a UU congregation, too. 3catwoman3 Jun 2018 #5
So my wife is a UCC minister blur256 Jun 2018 #2
Great post. Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #4
I would add this one: TygrBright Jun 2018 #6
More #4 Cartoonist Jun 2018 #7
There's always the "Metropolitan Community Churches (MCC)" left-of-center2012 Jun 2018 #9
Most, if not all of those reasons could apply to everyone Major Nikon Jun 2018 #10
Accurate. trotsky Jun 2018 #13
And then there is the patriarchy inherent in most religions. progressoid Jun 2018 #12
Look at what the largest Christian sect does. trotsky Jun 2018 #14
Most of the gay people I currently know are clergy. kwassa Jun 2018 #15
Most of the gay people you know are from among your immediate peers? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2018 #17
Fallacy of anecdotal evidence. trotsky Jun 2018 #18
Not to mention selection bias... Act_of_Reparation Jun 2018 #20
The author of this piece provides no evidence whatsoever. kwassa Jun 2018 #23
"...there are gays that are very, very comfortable in church." Mariana Jun 2018 #25
Of course he did. kwassa Jun 2018 #29
The article was about LGBTQ+ individuals who do not feel comfortable in church. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2018 #48
This is an opinion piece, not an article. kwassa Jun 2018 #49
If you're going to be pedantic, you should at least try to be right. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2018 #53
So what? They are welcome in our church kwassa Jun 2018 #55
This article tries to shed light on why they might not actually feel that way. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2018 #56
Wasn't there a schism in 2010 over equality? Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #21
Some dioceses attempted to leave the church over gay marriage. kwassa Jun 2018 #22
So that would be Yes. Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #24
no, because .... kwassa Jun 2018 #28
Your sect schisms over equality but you have Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #30
Thatthe immediate argumentis to discredit anything that challanges their view Lordquinton Jun 2018 #31
I have no problem with criticism of religion. kwassa Jun 2018 #33
That is a deflection though Lordquinton Jun 2018 #36
No deflection. kwassa Jun 2018 #37
Yea, deflection Lordquinton Jun 2018 #38
We are LGBTQ friendly, and he is wrong. kwassa Jun 2018 #40
kwassa, the article is specifically written for someone like you. trotsky Jun 2018 #42
no, trotsky. kwassa Jun 2018 #44
And yet, there will STILL be people who won't want to go to your church, no matter how much PR. trotsky Jun 2018 #47
How would you know? kwassa Jun 2018 #50
Doubling down with your "not all men" strategy - how bold! trotsky Jun 2018 #52
All religion is local. kwassa Jun 2018 #32
well that is nonsense Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #34
You don't even have an argument. kwassa Jun 2018 #35
You didn't claim to speak for all LGBTQIA people Lordquinton Jun 2018 #39
I have a good sense of the overall Episcopal church. kwassa Jun 2018 #41
Oh so I guess I misunderstood Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #43
No, they meant all human beings that walked into the church. kwassa Jun 2018 #45
Oh so you now speak for everyone who walks into Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #46
You don't do this very well. kwassa Jun 2018 #51
Your words: Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #57
Seven. Iggo Jun 2018 #16
Watch out....that's a dangerous word Heddi Jun 2018 #19
I can think of a few more KansasKali Jun 2018 #26
#3 Runningdawg Jun 2018 #27
Because LGBT had enough BS already AlexSFCA Jun 2018 #54
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