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kwassa

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35. You don't even have an argument.

Sun Jun 17, 2018, 12:04 AM

Jun 2018

If you think you do, state it.

Calling something nonsense is not proving something nonsense. It is avoiding dealing with the things I have stated out of my life experience. What experience have you had in the Episcopal church?

In no point in this conversation have I ever suggested that I speak for all lgbtq people. If you think I have, prove it.

And, what is your point, anyways? Do you have a point?

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7 Reasons Why LGBTQ+ People Don't Want to Go to Your LGBTQ+ Inclusive Church [View all] Heddi Jun 2018 OP

I attend a UU church but not for religion, rather for social justice n friends nt msongs Jun 2018 #1

Thank you for that friend blur256 Jun 2018 #3

The first gay minister to come out in this country safeinOhio Jun 2018 #8

I love the UUs. If I wasn't UCC I would be one. blur256 Jun 2018 #11

I participate with a UU congregation, too. 3catwoman3 Jun 2018 #5

So my wife is a UCC minister blur256 Jun 2018 #2

Great post. Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #4

I would add this one: TygrBright Jun 2018 #6

More #4 Cartoonist Jun 2018 #7

There's always the "Metropolitan Community Churches (MCC)" left-of-center2012 Jun 2018 #9

Most, if not all of those reasons could apply to everyone Major Nikon Jun 2018 #10

Accurate. trotsky Jun 2018 #13

And then there is the patriarchy inherent in most religions. progressoid Jun 2018 #12

Look at what the largest Christian sect does. trotsky Jun 2018 #14

Most of the gay people I currently know are clergy. kwassa Jun 2018 #15

Most of the gay people you know are from among your immediate peers? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2018 #17

Fallacy of anecdotal evidence. trotsky Jun 2018 #18

Not to mention selection bias... Act_of_Reparation Jun 2018 #20

The author of this piece provides no evidence whatsoever. kwassa Jun 2018 #23

"...there are gays that are very, very comfortable in church." Mariana Jun 2018 #25

Of course he did. kwassa Jun 2018 #29

The article was about LGBTQ+ individuals who do not feel comfortable in church. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2018 #48

This is an opinion piece, not an article. kwassa Jun 2018 #49

If you're going to be pedantic, you should at least try to be right. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2018 #53

So what? They are welcome in our church kwassa Jun 2018 #55

This article tries to shed light on why they might not actually feel that way. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2018 #56

Wasn't there a schism in 2010 over equality? Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #21

Some dioceses attempted to leave the church over gay marriage. kwassa Jun 2018 #22

So that would be Yes. Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #24

no, because .... kwassa Jun 2018 #28

Your sect schisms over equality but you have Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #30

Thatthe immediate argumentis to discredit anything that challanges their view Lordquinton Jun 2018 #31

I have no problem with criticism of religion. kwassa Jun 2018 #33

That is a deflection though Lordquinton Jun 2018 #36

No deflection. kwassa Jun 2018 #37

Yea, deflection Lordquinton Jun 2018 #38

We are LGBTQ friendly, and he is wrong. kwassa Jun 2018 #40

kwassa, the article is specifically written for someone like you. trotsky Jun 2018 #42

no, trotsky. kwassa Jun 2018 #44

And yet, there will STILL be people who won't want to go to your church, no matter how much PR. trotsky Jun 2018 #47

How would you know? kwassa Jun 2018 #50

Doubling down with your "not all men" strategy - how bold! trotsky Jun 2018 #52

All religion is local. kwassa Jun 2018 #32

well that is nonsense Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #34

You don't even have an argument. kwassa Jun 2018 #35

You didn't claim to speak for all LGBTQIA people Lordquinton Jun 2018 #39

I have a good sense of the overall Episcopal church. kwassa Jun 2018 #41

Oh so I guess I misunderstood Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #43

No, they meant all human beings that walked into the church. kwassa Jun 2018 #45

Oh so you now speak for everyone who walks into Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #46

You don't do this very well. kwassa Jun 2018 #51

Your words: Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #57

Seven. Iggo Jun 2018 #16

Watch out....that's a dangerous word Heddi Jun 2018 #19

I can think of a few more KansasKali Jun 2018 #26

#3 Runningdawg Jun 2018 #27

Because LGBT had enough BS already AlexSFCA Jun 2018 #54