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Karadeniz

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42. sorry I'm late...

Wed Jul 25, 2018, 03:40 PM

Jul 2018

You are so right! At what point is faith that is condoned by the Church and society actually blind faith? There is nothing good about blind faith! That's just Orwellian.

As far as the Christian religion is concerned, that got screwed up a minimum of 1700 years ago when churchmen decided it would be a good idea to create a dogma under the auspices of a pagan emperor. What could go wrong? As a result, the Nicaean creed and others "brought everyone together" by telling you what to believe and it pretty well focused on Jesus' earthly existence. Christianity became faith in Jesus as opposed to faith in Jesus' teachings (which leads to soul improvement), a priority Jesus would disavow. Despite there not being a shred of historical evidence for the Jesus portrayed in his "biographies," believing in what one couldn't know or be proven became normal. That's blind faith and violates "you will know by experience the Truth and the Truth will set you free." Knowledge, not faith, is what should be important. Also, not passive faith but active good works and good thinking should prioritize faith in Jesus' earthly existence. Thinking that one is a good Christian because of one's blind faith and uncritical acceptance of all things literal is passive, allowing all the passive Christians to rest assured that they'll be forgiven and spend eternity is some reality they don't have a clue about...soooo much easier than standing up to racism, otherness, and actually putting in the effort to do what Jesus actually said you have to do, to be.

Maybe we should write a creed to replace the crapola ones!!!!!

Take care.

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Is Faith Just Habit? [View all] MineralMan Jul 2018 OP

Do you mean 'habit' similar to refering to one's 'cocaine habit'? (nt) NeoGreen Jul 2018 #1

Well, that's sort of a different habit, but related. MineralMan Jul 2018 #2

Here's something that relates to your question: MineralMan Jul 2018 #3

If I had the time, I would take issue with the... NeoGreen Jul 2018 #4

Well, perhaps we can continue the conversation as the thread develops. MineralMan Jul 2018 #5

it's addictive to addictive people qazplm135 Jul 2018 #8

religion is learned behavior passed on from generation to generation. people who question msongs Jul 2018 #6

"Learned behavior" is pretty much the same as "habitual behavior." MineralMan Jul 2018 #9

faith is a way qazplm135 Jul 2018 #7

"Personal annihilation?" Really? MineralMan Jul 2018 #10

Yes really qazplm135 Jul 2018 #45

Wrapping hateful ignorance in religion is a hard habit to break. czarjak Jul 2018 #11

Religion and faith are not the same, but too many people conflate the two. in2herbs Jul 2018 #12

Isn't faith edhopper Jul 2018 #13

I don't think that's the definition of either faith or spirituality. nt. Mariana Jul 2018 #23

If you really want to separate faith from the bad things it encourages, it is. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2018 #27

If faith does not really bear thinking about, guillaumeb Jul 2018 #14

did you really miss the meaning of that last line? edhopper Jul 2018 #15

It is neither failure nor falure. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #16

so you did miss what was meant edhopper Jul 2018 #17

No, I simply pointed out the obvious. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #18

read it again edhopper Jul 2018 #19

Joining the choir with insults? guillaumeb Jul 2018 #20

What you wrote is this edhopper Jul 2018 #21

Subtlety escapes many people. MineralMan Jul 2018 #32

Atheism is not a belief system.. Permanut Jul 2018 #22

He knows that. He's baiting. nt. Mariana Jul 2018 #24

It's important to remember that gil insists no one can define religion for a believer... trotsky Jul 2018 #26

And yet, he refuses to define his own beliefs in any significant way. MineralMan Jul 2018 #35

He's pointing out the obvious Major Nikon Jul 2018 #46

The latter. n/t trotsky Jul 2018 #25

Because this is the Religion Group, where matters of faith are MineralMan Jul 2018 #31

faith is belief in heaven05 Jul 2018 #28

Or things unreal. MineralMan Jul 2018 #33

oh, I have thought heaven05 Jul 2018 #36

I say Pavolian WhiteTara Jul 2018 #29

I think for many Glamrock Jul 2018 #30

Yes, of course. MineralMan Jul 2018 #34

Actually, a lof them follow the word of Christ Mariana Jul 2018 #37

Kinda like how people think Jesus was a hippy running around quoting John Lenon lyrics at people? Act_of_Reparation Jul 2018 #38

Hard to say, really Major Nikon Jul 2018 #47

That's a fair point. Glamrock Jul 2018 #48

Hi MineralMan - Another interesting post (thank you very much!) Pendrench Jul 2018 #39

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. MineralMan Jul 2018 #40

Agreed - I also wanted to say that I greatly appreciate the opportunity to participate Pendrench Jul 2018 #41

sorry I'm late... Karadeniz Jul 2018 #42

You're not late at all. MineralMan Jul 2018 #43

Why was faith not needed in the Bible? edhopper Jul 2018 #44

I have a red phone to the almighty Major Nikon Jul 2018 #49