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CrawlingChaos

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64. OK then, obvious to most reasonable people

Sat May 26, 2012, 08:45 PM

May 2012

I've said corporate-owned media is in the business of fearmongering and has shown it cannot be trusted as an accurate source for news, and you call this "excessively conspiratorial thinking". I've said official sources are proven serial liars, a statement which is demonstrably true, and you've called this "excessively conspiratorial thinking." I would say what you're displaying is authoritarian thinking, which is what the powers that be count on from the public in order to continue getting away with their crimes.

This statement strikes me as particularly ridiculous: "Saying that you don't believe something doesn't tell me what you believe instead of the thing you disbelieve." If I say I don't believe something (with entirely rational reasons for not believing it), why is it necessary for me to be able to insert some alternate theory for my skepticism to be valid? Talk about a non sequitur...

As to your last statement, why would anyone believe that drawing deliberately offensive, demeaning caricatures and flaunting them in the face of their intended target be an entirely safe activity? When has it ever been completely safe to taunt and insult people? I believe most reasonable people would say it's just stupid.

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Happy Draw Mohammed Day! [View all] backscatter712 May 2012 OP

... mr blur May 2012 #1

In honor of free speech, I hereby offer my own unique depiction of this post rug May 2012 #2

That was almost amusing. Try again, as you're so fond of repeating. nt mr blur May 2012 #8

You're easily amused. rug May 2012 #19

Here's a good depiction! backscatter712 May 2012 #3

childish and obnoxious CrawlingChaos May 2012 #4

declare a fatwa, then. provis99 May 2012 #6

Dignity and respect need to be earned. mr blur May 2012 #7

and how many Muslims do you suppose want to kill people who draw pictures? CrawlingChaos May 2012 #9

Actually, quite a few. trotsky May 2012 #11

If you listen to corporate-owned media which represents the interests of war profiteers... CrawlingChaos May 2012 #14

Yeah, there's no threat Goblinmonger May 2012 #15

I suppose the pro-war, corporate-owned media just made this one up, eh? trotsky May 2012 #24

I was wondering when we'd get around to van Gogh CrawlingChaos May 2012 #28

Who's smearing a group of people? trotsky May 2012 #29

You are CrawlingChaos May 2012 #30

I view extremist fundmentalist religion as a threat. trotsky May 2012 #31

Who is trying to force you to "censor yourself"? CrawlingChaos May 2012 #41

You are. trotsky May 2012 #44

OK then, by your own logic... CrawlingChaos May 2012 #46

Uh, you're not saying anything. trotsky May 2012 #48

Soldier on, brave freedom fighter! CrawlingChaos May 2012 #49

And you please be careful not to offend anyone. trotsky May 2012 #51

I thought you weren't responding to me anymore (or so you said) CrawlingChaos May 2012 #52

As long as you continue to personally insult me, you're going to continue being corrected. trotsky May 2012 #54

Yes I see. You can be rude to others but it is NOT OK for others to be rude you. LOL CrawlingChaos May 2012 #55

If you can't see where he is going with this Goblinmonger May 2012 #56

No, I expect that if you're going to hold me to a certain standard that you should also meet it. trotsky May 2012 #57

You're still so confused CrawlingChaos May 2012 #58

I'm very sorry you feel the need to attack me personally. trotsky May 2012 #59

Your debate strategy is hilarious! CrawlingChaos May 2012 #62

I'm sure you wouldn't like it, trotsky May 2012 #67

Right, because we can see how you always take the high road (LOL) CrawlingChaos May 2012 #69

I respond as deserved. trotsky May 2012 #70

Very peaceful - discounting the riots which killed people, the axe attack, and the firebomb muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #45

Yes, I stand by that statement CrawlingChaos May 2012 #47

You appear to be saying there is an 'offical' conspiracy against Muslims muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #50

That's right, officials would never, ever lie to you (LOL) CrawlingChaos May 2012 #53

What exactly are you calling a lie? Silent3 May 2012 #60

I think it's pretty obvious what I meant CrawlingChaos May 2012 #61

No, it's not obvious what you meant Silent3 May 2012 #63

OK then, obvious to most reasonable people CrawlingChaos May 2012 #64

Obviously your definition of "reasonable people"... Silent3 May 2012 #65

We are miles apart, that's for sure CrawlingChaos May 2012 #66

The "THEY" I'm referring to... Silent3 May 2012 #68

You actually said something I agree with CrawlingChaos May 2012 #74

Muslims will have to make not slaughtering each other a priority first... Silent3 May 2012 #76

Well that was a steaming pantload CrawlingChaos May 2012 #79

You can't seem to help yourself from jumbling up bit and pieces that don't go together... Silent3 May 2012 #80

"the statistically least likely group to commit a terrorist act" ZombieHorde May 2012 #71

I'm happy to clarify CrawlingChaos May 2012 #72

It would do you some good to read the actual report being cited: laconicsax May 2012 #73

Those numbers don't seem a trifle suspicious to you? CrawlingChaos May 2012 #75

You can't have it both ways. laconicsax May 2012 #78

I'm not having it both ways CrawlingChaos May 2012 #81

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I heard similar things in the run-up to the Iraq war CrawlingChaos May 2012 #83

*yawn* laconicsax May 2012 #84

Instead of bitching about how unbelievable and untrustworthy everything is... Act_of_Reparation May 2012 #86

That stat doesn't support your claim at all. ZombieHorde May 2012 #77

Don't bother, ZH. laconicsax May 2012 #85

how many Muslims do you suppose want to kill people who draw pictures? Almost none, AlbertCat May 2012 #16

You would be deliberately hurtful and offensive to people who have not harmed you CrawlingChaos May 2012 #18

support hatemongering AlbertCat May 2012 #20

nonsensical post CrawlingChaos May 2012 #23

sophistry AlbertCat May 2012 #32

Do you think everyone you offend wants to kill you? Starboard Tack May 2012 #21

Whom does blasphemy attack? trotsky May 2012 #25

I guess that would depend on the one who blasphemes. Starboard Tack May 2012 #26

Your knowledge is incorrect, then. trotsky May 2012 #27

I don't give a flying fuck who you blaspheme. It's your word, not mine. Starboard Tack May 2012 #33

Are you being intentionally obtuse or what? cleanhippie May 2012 #34

Obtuse, moi? Starboard Tack May 2012 #35

On second thought, it's just not worth it. cleanhippie May 2012 #36

Good boy! Starboard Tack May 2012 #39

We agree that gods cannot be offended. trotsky May 2012 #37

I'm sure we agree on lot's of things. Damn, I would hope so, considering where we are. Starboard Tack May 2012 #38

I really don't care what someone else said, and I don't care to defend your spin on what they meant. trotsky May 2012 #40

If you don't care what someone else said, why are you here? Starboard Tack May 2012 #42

Ah yes, I figured it was time for you to pull out that trick. trotsky May 2012 #43

This is not a depiction of Mohammed muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #5

+1. Fuck all who call for violence Starboard Tack May 2012 #22

@:-D> Silent3 May 2012 #10

We don't need to when Muslims have done it so well and so often throughout history dmallind May 2012 #12

I almost forgot - we need to remember Hamza Kashgari backscatter712 May 2012 #13

ASCII Mohammed OriginalGeek May 2012 #17