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Fullduplexxx

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17. But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a m

Tue Aug 14, 2018, 08:55 AM

Aug 2018

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Matthew 18.6

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And here's another example of vicious hypocrisy: [View all] MineralMan Aug 2018 OP

Yes it is heinous there are bad people in every profession. But he is no man of god Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #1

It is the CLAIM of being a "man of God" that is MineralMan Aug 2018 #2

So people who do bad things can't be religious? Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #3

Evidently they can be if they are faking it Major Nikon Aug 2018 #5

They don't have to be faking it. Mariana Aug 2018 #7

The question is whether or not they are a "true" (Christian or whatever) for doing so Major Nikon Aug 2018 #8

Yeah, there's this incredibly bigoted idea out there Mariana Aug 2018 #9

Whatabout?.... MineralMan Aug 2018 #4

Why is he not a man of God? marylandblue Aug 2018 #6

Pederasty was well tolerated, if not expected during the time of Jesus Major Nikon Aug 2018 #10

That may have been true in the Greek tradition marylandblue Aug 2018 #11

The Greeks heavily influenced the Romans and the Jews Major Nikon Aug 2018 #12

But there is no actual evidence? marylandblue Aug 2018 #13

The evidence is in what was forbidden Major Nikon Aug 2018 #15

Do you have a specific citation in the Talmud for this? marylandblue Aug 2018 #28

I can't cite something that isn't there Major Nikon Aug 2018 #32

Interpreting actual practice out of the Talmud is difficult marylandblue Aug 2018 #44

I didn't assume it happened Major Nikon Aug 2018 #45

Like I said no evidence Jews practiced it marylandblue Aug 2018 #47

The evidence is the same as you have for JTB being celibate Major Nikon Aug 2018 #62

The Sybelline Oracles actually attest the Hebrews did not practice pederasty. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2018 #51

The movement to end the practice came well after Christ Major Nikon Aug 2018 #64

Funny isn't it? There are a lot of things Christ didn't think to address. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2018 #72

It's important to remember like all religious hustlers, Christ was running a for profit business Major Nikon Aug 2018 #75

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a m Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #17

Jesus was talking about following him like a child edhopper Aug 2018 #18

Yes he is doing both ... are you suggesting that like a child doesnt include a child Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #20

I am not saying Jesus would not condemn child abuse edhopper Aug 2018 #22

I dont see how it is misleading it is a reference to children Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #23

If that's the correct interpretation Mariana Aug 2018 #31

OK, let's go that route and assume Jesus is talking about child rape Major Nikon Aug 2018 #69

Who decides what "offends" a child? marylandblue Aug 2018 #19

Idk maybe the child maybe God Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #21

Adults decide what is best for a child, not the child marylandblue Aug 2018 #27

Offends becomes what's best ? Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #37

Offends means almost anything, it is not a specific prohibition marylandblue Aug 2018 #39

I agree but the answer i gave was an answer to this Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #40

My point is that child molestion is not prohibited by the Bible marylandblue Aug 2018 #42

Mary was probably 13 to 16 when she got together with Joseph. Bretton Garcia Aug 2018 #70

How do you know? trotsky Aug 2018 #16

No . Hopefully that clarifies it for you Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #24

So when you declared this criminal was "no man of god," trotsky Aug 2018 #25

When i declared him no man of god i didnt declare him an atheist Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #26

So basically anyone who commits a bad act is "no man of god" then, right? trotsky Aug 2018 #30

I didnt say that. no man of god is in reference to that one pedophile who Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #33

Why can't a pedophile be "a man of god"? trotsky Aug 2018 #34

What do you take man of god to mean Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #35

That's what I'm trying to get you to answer! trotsky Aug 2018 #36

Well maybe you can ask mineral man he is the one who called this pedophile a man of god Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #38

And you said he isn't one. Mariana Aug 2018 #41

Do you think you can rape a child and still call yourself godly? Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #43

I have no idea, that's why I asked you. Mariana Aug 2018 #46

It's always fun when they know full well why they said what they did, trotsky Aug 2018 #49

How do you discern ...i dont know .... by their actions i guess Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #58

So again you are claiming that only those Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #60

A lot of people on the right claim a belief in god and they still do some awful things Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #61

I'm glad we agree that "men of god" can do Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #63

I do know the damage and trauma it causes. Mariana Aug 2018 #65

Well, this argumentative nosedive sure has been entertaining. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2018 #52

If you knew the answer why badger me about it . The right is full of the people you just Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #57

Probably because we have heard this before Major Nikon Aug 2018 #67

Because your irksome response gives creedence to negative stereotypes of atheists. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2018 #74

My apologies to you i certainly didnt mean to give you that impression Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #81

If that's how you need to back out, fine. trotsky Aug 2018 #48

Im not in a postion from which to back out Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #56

You still haven't explained why Mariana Aug 2018 #66

Yet that's what you're doing. trotsky Aug 2018 #77

You rang? You can ask me things directly. MineralMan Aug 2018 #50

No sir i didnt. i refered someone to you who had a question about Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #55

That is not true. Mariana Aug 2018 #73

He didnt ask me to explain his post He asked me to explain what "man of god meant". Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #79

If a person puts on a clerical collar and stands in front MineralMan Aug 2018 #82

God/the Holy Spirit had sex with Mary when she was probably 13 to 16. Bretton Garcia Aug 2018 #71

Isn't that exactly how certain Christians defended Roy Moore? trotsky Aug 2018 #76

The bible has been used to defend any human atrocity you can name Major Nikon Aug 2018 #80

These acts are indeed heinous.. Permanut Aug 2018 #14

Exactly. MineralMan Aug 2018 #29

8/13- one of the biggest mega churches in the Illinois area. first a worker then the founder !! lunasun Aug 2018 #53

Crap! There's a new one every day in Google News. MineralMan Aug 2018 #54

And here's another just posted Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #59

It's reasonable to assume it's been going on far longer Major Nikon Aug 2018 #68

Yes. We'll be hearing a lot about that situation. MineralMan Aug 2018 #78