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thucythucy

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34. True. They may be believers AND pedophiles
Wed Aug 22, 2018, 01:25 AM
Aug 2018

and hope that "dedicating their lives to God" will somehow cure them of their urges, which at least some know to be abhorrent. When prayer and dedication to the Church doesn't cure them, many nonetheless find themselves in a position of power over and access to children, with the results we've seen and which are now becoming more and more clear. Who knows, some may even think it's "God's will" that these children are "given to them" as either temptation or solace, as sick as that may sound.

As I've posted before on these threads, another problem with celibacy, aside from the obvious denial of human nature, is that, like prohibition, it fosters a climate of secrecy and skirting the "law." I've heard that something like half of all priests enter into sexual relations at some point in their lives in the Church--and is this at all surprising? Many if not most of these relationships are with consenting adults, but they are nonetheless violations of Church strictures and grounds for punishment and even expulsion from the clergy. The resulting "corporate culture" thus includes a component of "if you keep quiet about my lapse, I'll keep quiet about yours." Not exactly conducive to the protection of abuse survivors, rather it accrues to the benefit of abusers.

Some maybe be faking, most probably aren't. Just as many abusive therapists probably actually believe having sex with their patients is somehow therapeutic, and that they are ethical practitioners helping their patients.

It's an organized crime gang. "You wouldn't want something to happen to your afterlife?" . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #1
I think it is "Why do so many pedophiles become priests?" lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #2
Exactly. Mariana Aug 2018 #21
Yep. If it wasn't for that many wouldn't become priests. brush Aug 2018 #26
Is it case of many victims of abuse that were complaint being encouraged to brewens Aug 2018 #30
There are many factors. trotsky Aug 2018 #3
True. They may be believers AND pedophiles thucythucy Aug 2018 #34
This may be shallow or ignorant but thbobby Aug 2018 #4
I don't think that's shallow or ignorant at all. trotsky Aug 2018 #5
Yes. I think that could be a factor, as well. MineralMan Aug 2018 #7
I think you are right. Mariana Aug 2018 #22
Celibacy vow is not the issue QuantaviousJackson Aug 2018 #6
Maybe it's not the issue, but it's an antiquated idea Merlot Aug 2018 #8
Celibacy wasn't always a requirement. From what I understand, when priests died way back when... brush Aug 2018 #27
That sounds about right. Merlot Aug 2018 #41
It isn't "the" issue. trotsky Aug 2018 #19
And an even deeper issue thucythucy Aug 2018 #35
Is there any evidence Catholic priests are more likely to be sex-offenders struggle4progress Aug 2018 #9
Whatabout?... MineralMan Aug 2018 #14
What difference does it make? Mariana Aug 2018 #37
If the question is "why are so many priests pedophiles?" then it is natural struggle4progress Aug 2018 #40
Is there any evidence of large conspiracies Mariana Aug 2018 #44
They know they're in an institution that will protect them. Merlot Aug 2018 #42
Things to know about the Boy Scouts sex abuse cases struggle4progress Aug 2018 #10
And whatabout... MineralMan Aug 2018 #16
This is the religion group. We discuss religion and religious issues here. Mariana Aug 2018 #23
That's a strange response struggle4progress Aug 2018 #25
What's strange is your desperate attempts to hijack the thread Mariana Aug 2018 #36
And look how they have responded d_r Aug 2018 #32
38 Arrested in SC Child Sex Sting struggle4progress Aug 2018 #11
But, see, we were talking about priests... MineralMan Aug 2018 #17
This wasn't a conspiracy of silence, it was a sting operation marylandblue Aug 2018 #45
Chicago Public Schools fails to protect students from sexual attacks by classmates struggle4progress Aug 2018 #12
This is the Religion group, so we're talking about priests. MineralMan Aug 2018 #18
Student-teacher sex in last 24 hours of Google news struggle4progress Aug 2018 #13
And Whatabout youth pastors? MineralMan Aug 2018 #15
I think you've proved whataboutism is alive and well in this group Major Nikon Aug 2018 #20
Anyone, who is really concerned about sexual abuse of children, should examine the actual facts struggle4progress Aug 2018 #24
Whataboutism doesn't mean other facts aren't facts Major Nikon Aug 2018 #31
Whatabout warlord armies in Africa? Voltaire2 Aug 2018 #39
I believe it developed over the centuries MaryMagdaline Aug 2018 #28
Almost the same as prison? keithbvadu2 Aug 2018 #29
Meanwhile McCarrick is still getting paid and supported by the RCC. Major Nikon Aug 2018 #33
Sexual abuse pervades our life choices....... suston96 Aug 2018 #38
If you're a predator, it's the sensible place to go. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2018 #43
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