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zipplewrath

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23. So is belief

Reply to uriel1972 (Reply #16)

Fri Sep 21, 2018, 02:14 PM

Sep 2018

Belief is basically a conclusion in absence of any real logical discipline. At its best, it is an extrapolation from past experience, occasionally known as anecdotal argument. I tell my engineers all the time, I don't care what they believe, I want to know what they can calculate. Belief is great for organizing and prioritizing ones efforts and analysis. But it is not a replacement. Even professional gamblers "know the numbers". Gamblers know there is no actual real "hot streak", there are just variations in probabilities, and some of them can be detected (which is what counting cards can be all about).

I agree that one does not need to read "every article". Alternately, one of faith shouldn't necessarily be criticized for not reading "every article" either. Especially one that has no intention of attempting to become an "amateur theologian". However, if one is going to be a critic of theologians, one would think that they should at least have read the fundamental works of the same.

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How Much of the Bible Have Churchgoers Read? [View all] MineralMan Sep 2018 OP

This doesn't address your question zipplewrath Sep 2018 #1

Well, generally it demonstrates that few have actually read the MineralMan Sep 2018 #2

Not for "church goers" zipplewrath Sep 2018 #3

The links are there for anyone to examine. MineralMan Sep 2018 #5

Yes they are zipplewrath Sep 2018 #6

See my edits of the post you replied to, and then carry on as you wish. MineralMan Sep 2018 #7

And yet zipplewrath Sep 2018 #9

Please find another hobby. MineralMan Sep 2018 #10

I might advise likewise zipplewrath Sep 2018 #13

If I am being cynical... Thomas Hurt Sep 2018 #4

actually zipplewrath Sep 2018 #8

Study about it but not read it? uriel1972 Sep 2018 #11

Sorta zipplewrath Sep 2018 #12

uh Faith is belief without evidence... uriel1972 Sep 2018 #16

So is belief zipplewrath Sep 2018 #23

Your definition of "belief" seems to be mistaken. Mariana Sep 2018 #36

Define the difference zipplewrath Sep 2018 #38

See definition #3 especially after the word "especially" marylandblue Sep 2018 #41

Not exacly scientific zipplewrath Sep 2018 #44

There is a huge difference edhopper Sep 2018 #18

And that would be? zipplewrath Sep 2018 #24

If you don't understand the difference between edhopper Sep 2018 #28

I understand zipplewrath Sep 2018 #35

Protestant Christianity set up this problem for itself marylandblue Sep 2018 #42

Dead on zipplewrath Sep 2018 #43

The point I take from this survey.. Permanut Sep 2018 #14

Well, the Bible is a slog to read through. MineralMan Sep 2018 #15

Got that right.. Permanut Sep 2018 #17

There are more "modern" translations zipplewrath Sep 2018 #25

Exsept when those others not only tell you what it says edhopper Sep 2018 #29

I was refering more to theologians zipplewrath Sep 2018 #33

Theologians edhopper Sep 2018 #40

It's different zipplewrath Sep 2018 #45

The instruction manual provides guidance on how to sell your children into slavery Major Nikon Sep 2018 #19

Of course most Christians become Christians without reading the instruction manual. Mariana Sep 2018 #39

I grew up in a Lutheran (ELCA) church. trotsky Sep 2018 #20

I grew up in a Presbyterian church, MineralMan Sep 2018 #21

Or to other religions Major Nikon Sep 2018 #22

I love the unitarians zipplewrath Sep 2018 #26

My Mom, church, bible study, circle ghostsinthemachine Sep 2018 #27

Generally, only the same 10-20 passages over and over for most people. bitterross Sep 2018 #30

Many churches also have Bible study groups. MineralMan Sep 2018 #31

Consider I was born into Runningdawg Sep 2018 #32

Im atheist but i listened to the whole thing on tape..took a long time.. samnsara Sep 2018 #34

Wow! I don't think I could do that. MineralMan Sep 2018 #37