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rrneck

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5. How so?

Wed May 30, 2012, 02:20 PM

May 2012

Is there a difference between a Mega church and a media empire? Is there a difference between Thomas Nelson publishing and McGraw Hill? Don't they all have marketshare and capital investments to protect?

How do we distinguish between a commercial lobbying organization and a religious lobbying organization? And if we cannot, what will happen? Exactly what has happened. Liberal religious organizations are going to lose in the marketplace of ideas because they are playing conservative game on a regressive field. They cannot compete unless they profit, and to succeed they must become what they are fighting against. Never play another man's game, he's better at it and he'll win every time.

When what most people consider religion is seen as the guardian of civic virtue it establishes itself as a conduit through which people relate to government. That's what the establishment clause is all about.

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Check out the motivation! [View all] Thats my opinion May 2012 OP

Motivations designed and distributed by rrneck May 2012 #1

What is the constitutional prohibition against political activity? cbayer May 2012 #2

The First Amendment. rrneck May 2012 #3

I disagree that the First Amendment prohibits religious groups from engaging in political action cbayer May 2012 #4

How so? rrneck May 2012 #5

The establishment claause constrains the government, not churches. eomer May 2012 #27

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." rrneck May 2012 #32

You forgot to include the free exercise clause. Thats my opinion May 2012 #35

How do you feel about rrneck May 2012 #38

I feel i should add... rrneck May 2012 #6

1+++ patrice May 2012 #8

Appreciate your responses here and I see your point about the difficulty cbayer May 2012 #9

Forgive the intrusion --> daaron May 2012 #12

Well said. Again, I think, but am not certain, that the projects of these students cbayer May 2012 #13

Could you explain how the Establishment clause bans organized polticking of religious institutions. Leontius May 2012 #15

By "organized politicking" I'm referring to endorsing or opposing political candidates --> daaron May 2012 #22

What I want you to explain is how you reach the conclusion that Leontius May 2012 #23

Campaigning from the pulpit is banned according to SCOTUS decisions. daaron May 2012 #24

The law that constrains churches is the Internal Revenue Code, not the establishment clause. eomer May 2012 #28

The tax code that constrains churches stands only because SCOTUS --> daaron May 2012 #30

The problem is when you start playing so fast and loose with the Constitution Leontius May 2012 #42

Here is some --> daaron May 2012 #31

The question decided in that Supreme Court ruling is whether the government is permitted... eomer May 2012 #33

6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other. daaron May 2012 #39

No, I didn't say the government doesn't limit churches, I said the Constitution doesn't. eomer May 2012 #40

Sudo !! daaron May 2012 #41

Yes, that is what the First Amendment is all about. nt Thats my opinion May 2012 #18

Sorry, nope. rrneck May 2012 #14

Take a look at #16. Thats my opinion May 2012 #19

Hey, rrneck May 2012 #21

Help me understand. Thats my opinion May 2012 #16

No society can last for long rrneck May 2012 #20

Hee hee -- "...in air conditioning and iced Scotch..." daaron May 2012 #25

To the extent that political action or causes are more than 50% associated with a certain candidate, patrice May 2012 #7

None of these projects appear to be supporting particular candidates. cbayer May 2012 #10

"While most of these young adults have a religious motivation which impels them on their journeys" trotsky May 2012 #11

Other than using your response as just another way to take a swipe at anything religious, Thats my opinion May 2012 #17

Nope, your attempt to smear me is misguided. trotsky May 2012 #26

If Thats my opinion May 2012 #36

Actually, it's honest commentary. trotsky May 2012 #37

Religious groups often engage in things that benefit society. MineralMan May 2012 #29

Sounds like a wonderful program. cbayer May 2012 #34