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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
65. Well, you did write:
Wed May 15, 2019, 04:56 PM
May 2019

In reality, not enough of the story was in your post to form any real thoughts about it. I did click the link and read it, but more so I could reply and make some sense. I still didn't find it particularly interesting, nor did I think her conversion to Christianity was anything out of the ordinary. I doubt she was actually an atheist, really, but rather just someone without any particular reason to be religious.

So perhaps you understand my confusion.

"No longer running from god." WTF A DAY IN THE LIFE May 2019 #1
Welcome to DU. guillaumeb May 2019 #2
Good question. MineralMan May 2019 #6
Vengeance? Ghost Dog May 2019 #19
Belief in gods. Voltaire2 May 2019 #67
The author was clearly already in search of something. bitterross May 2019 #107
Yep, much more to this story Major Nikon May 2019 #108
Look at her stated place of employment; Western Sydney U. Bretton Garcia May 2019 #110
Her employer rates pretty low among institutes of higher learning Major Nikon May 2019 #112
Sarah's job seems more serious: Bretton Garcia May 2019 #113
Curiously? There was a Dr. Irving Breakstone in Miami Bretton Garcia May 2019 #115
The author of the article is whoever she is. MineralMan May 2019 #116
Yep! Just More Will B. Will Be Will B. bitterross May 2019 #119
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. MineralMan May 2019 #120
I agree with this True Dough May 2019 #127
He's clearly writing for an audience. Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #114
Whatever an individual feels they need to give their life meaning is their business, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #3
What comes first? guillaumeb May 2019 #8
It's a little difficult to understand how the implications of her atheism were incompatible with ... Jim__ May 2019 #4
I agree wih you that she is probably referring to Singer. guillaumeb May 2019 #9
Singer asserts that ethics that hold Voltaire2 May 2019 #69
Is Singer a vegatarian? guillaumeb May 2019 #71
So you demonstrably know nothing about Singer. Voltaire2 May 2019 #72
One of us is unfamiliar with Singer's veganism. guillaumeb May 2019 #75
It sounds more likely that she disagrees with Singer's views on human equality. Jim__ May 2019 #79
Is Singer wrong to question if ALL humans are equal? bitterross May 2019 #109
First, I wasn't judging Singer's claims, I was addressing an issue about ... Jim__ May 2019 #121
Thank you for a great response. bitterross May 2019 #123
My thoughts are that somebody in England became a Christian. MineralMan May 2019 #5
My thoughts are written here in my responses. guillaumeb May 2019 #11
I'm not familiar with Singer's thinking. MineralMan May 2019 #12
I have read some of what he writes. guillaumeb May 2019 #15
OK. I rarely read writings about atheism that are written by MineralMan May 2019 #30
Understood. guillaumeb May 2019 #32
So she said. MineralMan May 2019 #33
I found it to be interesting. guillaumeb May 2019 #35
Why did you find it interesting? See that's the thing. MineralMan May 2019 #52
She stated that she was an atheist. guillaumeb May 2019 #60
No, I'll take her word for it, MineralMan May 2019 #63
Well, you did write: guillaumeb May 2019 #65
I wouldn't argue with her, but I might not think her atheism MineralMan May 2019 #66
If we agree that each atheist personally defines atheism, guillaumeb May 2019 #68
Do you think that each atheist personally defines atheism? marylandblue May 2019 #83
Of course. guillaumeb May 2019 #89
Good, so I expect you'll never argue about the definition of atheism again. marylandblue May 2019 #91
I argued only for expanding the definition to include those who might believe. eom guillaumeb May 2019 #141
You argued with atheists here about the nature of their own beliefs marylandblue May 2019 #146
No, I argued that, as you said, they are beliefs. guillaumeb May 2019 #149
If their belief is that atheism is not a belief, then that is how they define their atheism. marylandblue May 2019 #151
Of course each atheist does that. MineralMan May 2019 #88
What a great point! Someone needs a spine. bitterross May 2019 #111
I'd bet my firstborn he completely agrees with the OP. Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #118
Uh what? Singer is famous for his utilitarian Voltaire2 May 2019 #70
If you have read any of his dissertations about Abrahamic theism, guillaumeb May 2019 #73
You demonstrated upthread that you Voltaire2 May 2019 #74
Ironic that your reply #71 demonstrates the opposite. guillaumeb May 2019 #76
Really? Let's go to the wiki. Voltaire2 May 2019 #77
Agreed. guillaumeb May 2019 #78
Wtf are you on about? Voltaire2 May 2019 #80
Have you already forgotten? guillaumeb May 2019 #81
Perhaps you should study his thinking in more detail and let us know. marylandblue May 2019 #84
You do understand that vegans are a subset of vegetarians right. Voltaire2 May 2019 #85
Also thinks deists are a subset of theists Major Nikon May 2019 #104
What kind of values are incompatible with atheism? Cartoonist May 2019 #7
And they are present in non-theists as well. guillaumeb May 2019 #10
And she's welcome to her story. MineralMan May 2019 #13
What lesson are we to take? guillaumeb May 2019 #18
And yet, you found it interesting enough to share here. MineralMan May 2019 #22
Your many anecdotal observations support your own narrative. guillaumeb May 2019 #23
It's not that I don't like the anecdote. MineralMan May 2019 #25
We understand how MM's post supports his narrative. marylandblue May 2019 #45
Thank you. MineralMan May 2019 #46
Needs further explanation Cartoonist May 2019 #17
You listed several things that are present in humans. guillaumeb May 2019 #20
You missed Cartoonist May 2019 #26
The logic behind your question is puzzling to me. guillaumeb May 2019 #27
No Cartoonist May 2019 #31
Yes, she did claim that. guillaumeb May 2019 #34
It is exclusive Cartoonist May 2019 #37
Do all theists hate? guillaumeb May 2019 #39
I never said all Cartoonist May 2019 #40
You cannot logically assert that you know why theists hate. guillaumeb May 2019 #41
Jeez, whatever gave me that idea? Cartoonist May 2019 #47
Those values are incompatible with *your* atheism, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #14
Well, it was just an anecdote about one person's decision. MineralMan May 2019 #21
People publish personal anecdotes all the time. Obviously it meant something to the author, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #24
Falconry? guillaumeb May 2019 #28
I find personal anecdotes to be very interesting when they are MineralMan May 2019 #29
Sarah seems superficial on Christianity Bretton Garcia May 2019 #90
Rose-colored glasses are very popular, I understand, MineralMan May 2019 #99
She also appears to not realize... trotsky May 2019 #101
Yes, I don't like those values, either. MineralMan May 2019 #16
Not so much incompatible as non-complimentary Major Nikon May 2019 #92
Singer also made an ethical case for Vegetarianism/Veganism. AtheistCrusader May 2019 #138
Anyone who is convinced by "Mere Christianity" wasn't looking for answers. trotsky May 2019 #36
So you dismissed her claim of being an atheist? guillaumeb May 2019 #38
I'm commenting on how awful Mere Christianity is. trotsky May 2019 #42
So you accept that she was an atheist, and retract your claim? guillaumeb May 2019 #44
You clearly didn't read what I wrote. trotsky May 2019 #50
Looked more like a desire for strawman Major Nikon May 2019 #93
She says she was from a "secular" family Bretton Garcia May 2019 #95
I've read "Mere Christianity," and although it's a beautifully-written explanation The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #43
I share that criticism of that book. MineralMan May 2019 #48
I was raised a Christian. trotsky May 2019 #51
Yes. The book has helped many on their road to atheism. MineralMan May 2019 #55
Since you don't like religion and were predisposed to disagree The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #53
Actually, you're incorrect about that. MineralMan May 2019 #57
Wheaton Cartoonist May 2019 #59
Yeah, I agree. MineralMan May 2019 #64
I probably wouldn't have lasted long there. MineralMan May 2019 #87
OK, fair enough. I read it when I was much older, and because The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #82
I'm sort of naturally logical in my approach MineralMan May 2019 #86
The entire piece rings of bullshit Major Nikon May 2019 #94
Sure does. trotsky May 2019 #98
You can hear the same horseshit from batshit crazy streetcorner preachers Major Nikon May 2019 #103
Hey now. He doesn't always tell people how wrong they are. trotsky May 2019 #105
... Major Nikon May 2019 #106
Thoughts? Cartoonist May 2019 #49
It's also a two-year-old piece. trotsky May 2019 #54
Damn! I didn't notice the date. MineralMan May 2019 #58
Very good. guillaumeb May 2019 #62
Whatever you need for your agenda, g. trotsky May 2019 #96
Well, two years is quite some time, and Sarah may have changed her mind MineralMan May 2019 #117
Yes, the Rec standard. guillaumeb May 2019 #61
You're the one who has claimed to have a giant fan club sending you private messages. trotsky May 2019 #97
going to church, several of them, drove me to atheism. demigoddess May 2019 #56
How Christians drove me to atheism. Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #100
"I knelt in my closet in my apartment and asked Jesus" MineralMan May 2019 #102
Another interesting stand-out. AtheistCrusader May 2019 #139
Many of the indigenous cultures they encountered MineralMan May 2019 #145
Sarah Irving-Stonebraker, and Science-Fiction Christianity Bretton Garcia May 2019 #122
I didn't know anything about Singer before, but I see he has a unique moral perspective marylandblue May 2019 #124
The fundamental error is believing that one person, Peter Singer, MineralMan May 2019 #125
Great words as usual Ferrets are Cool May 2019 #126
I think is a general discomfort with the idea that there is no ultimate justice. marylandblue May 2019 #129
I would think that Humanism might represent the ethics edhopper May 2019 #134
All atheists "represent" atheism. guillaumeb May 2019 #142
All atheists represent themselves. MineralMan May 2019 #143
We disagree. guillaumeb May 2019 #144
Of course we disagree. MineralMan May 2019 #147
So we can judge Christianity by the examples of individual Christians? marylandblue May 2019 #148
Do we not judge everyone by their actions? guillaumeb May 2019 #150
Based on everything you've said before, no category is relevant for any purpose. marylandblue May 2019 #152
We all act for our own reasons. guillaumeb May 2019 #153
Atheists on this site have been telling you this for years. marylandblue May 2019 #154
If that is your preferred narrative, I understand. eom guillaumeb May 2019 #155
Or so you have convinced yourself. MineralMan May 2019 #156
Ironically, I think the same thing about many of your posts. eom guillaumeb May 2019 #159
Yah, OK, then. MineralMan May 2019 #161
My preferred narrative is called "the truth." marylandblue May 2019 #157
What is truth? guillaumeb May 2019 #160
It's very weird for a Christian to quote Pilate's cynical question. marylandblue May 2019 #162
What an odd thing to bring up... MineralMan May 2019 #163
Truth has many meanings. guillaumeb May 2019 #164
No, not really. MineralMan May 2019 #165
You are confused about the various meanings of the word truth. guillaumeb May 2019 #166
I believe this form of lying is called dissembling. marylandblue May 2019 #167
Perhaps you should research the word truth. guillaumeb May 2019 #168
I did research the word. And I know a postmodern narrative when I see one. marylandblue May 2019 #169
And what type of truth are there? guillaumeb May 2019 #170
What makes your narrative postmodern, is that you can take any text marylandblue May 2019 #171
And what was the clear intent? guillaumeb May 2019 #172
Well, since I am the one who brought up the word "truth," marylandblue May 2019 #173
Thank you for the clarification of intent. eom guillaumeb May 2019 #177
Well now that you know why I picked that word, perhaps you could consider marylandblue May 2019 #178
"You are confused" trotsky May 2019 #174
... Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #175
No, actually, I am not. MineralMan May 2019 #176
Whether or not you agree with Singer his methods are far superior Major Nikon May 2019 #128
Divine Justice? Cartoonist May 2019 #130
Who do you think I might be paraphrasing? marylandblue May 2019 #131
Peter Singer Cartoonist May 2019 #132
I was paraphrasing a quick survey of her impression of what he seems to be saying. marylandblue May 2019 #133
My thoughts are that for someone who apparently got her PhD from Cambridge, logic or clear writing muriel_volestrangler May 2019 #135
Irving-Stonebraker writes a cliched "captivity," then "conversion narrative" Bretton Garcia May 2019 #136
I am convinced it's a narrative crafted to appeal to evangelical christians. AtheistCrusader May 2019 #140
Or Irving-Stonebraker genuinely loves cliches Bretton Garcia May 2019 #158
'Bullpucky'. AtheistCrusader May 2019 #137
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