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Cartoonist

(7,298 posts)
130. Divine Justice?
Sat May 18, 2019, 02:03 PM
May 2019
If there is no divine justice, our society could kill babies in good conscience and there would be no consequence

Is this you talking or paraphrasing?

"No longer running from god." WTF A DAY IN THE LIFE May 2019 #1
Welcome to DU. guillaumeb May 2019 #2
Good question. MineralMan May 2019 #6
Vengeance? Ghost Dog May 2019 #19
Belief in gods. Voltaire2 May 2019 #67
The author was clearly already in search of something. bitterross May 2019 #107
Yep, much more to this story Major Nikon May 2019 #108
Look at her stated place of employment; Western Sydney U. Bretton Garcia May 2019 #110
Her employer rates pretty low among institutes of higher learning Major Nikon May 2019 #112
Sarah's job seems more serious: Bretton Garcia May 2019 #113
Curiously? There was a Dr. Irving Breakstone in Miami Bretton Garcia May 2019 #115
The author of the article is whoever she is. MineralMan May 2019 #116
Yep! Just More Will B. Will Be Will B. bitterross May 2019 #119
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. MineralMan May 2019 #120
I agree with this True Dough May 2019 #127
He's clearly writing for an audience. Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #114
Whatever an individual feels they need to give their life meaning is their business, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #3
What comes first? guillaumeb May 2019 #8
It's a little difficult to understand how the implications of her atheism were incompatible with ... Jim__ May 2019 #4
I agree wih you that she is probably referring to Singer. guillaumeb May 2019 #9
Singer asserts that ethics that hold Voltaire2 May 2019 #69
Is Singer a vegatarian? guillaumeb May 2019 #71
So you demonstrably know nothing about Singer. Voltaire2 May 2019 #72
One of us is unfamiliar with Singer's veganism. guillaumeb May 2019 #75
It sounds more likely that she disagrees with Singer's views on human equality. Jim__ May 2019 #79
Is Singer wrong to question if ALL humans are equal? bitterross May 2019 #109
First, I wasn't judging Singer's claims, I was addressing an issue about ... Jim__ May 2019 #121
Thank you for a great response. bitterross May 2019 #123
My thoughts are that somebody in England became a Christian. MineralMan May 2019 #5
My thoughts are written here in my responses. guillaumeb May 2019 #11
I'm not familiar with Singer's thinking. MineralMan May 2019 #12
I have read some of what he writes. guillaumeb May 2019 #15
OK. I rarely read writings about atheism that are written by MineralMan May 2019 #30
Understood. guillaumeb May 2019 #32
So she said. MineralMan May 2019 #33
I found it to be interesting. guillaumeb May 2019 #35
Why did you find it interesting? See that's the thing. MineralMan May 2019 #52
She stated that she was an atheist. guillaumeb May 2019 #60
No, I'll take her word for it, MineralMan May 2019 #63
Well, you did write: guillaumeb May 2019 #65
I wouldn't argue with her, but I might not think her atheism MineralMan May 2019 #66
If we agree that each atheist personally defines atheism, guillaumeb May 2019 #68
Do you think that each atheist personally defines atheism? marylandblue May 2019 #83
Of course. guillaumeb May 2019 #89
Good, so I expect you'll never argue about the definition of atheism again. marylandblue May 2019 #91
I argued only for expanding the definition to include those who might believe. eom guillaumeb May 2019 #141
You argued with atheists here about the nature of their own beliefs marylandblue May 2019 #146
No, I argued that, as you said, they are beliefs. guillaumeb May 2019 #149
If their belief is that atheism is not a belief, then that is how they define their atheism. marylandblue May 2019 #151
Of course each atheist does that. MineralMan May 2019 #88
What a great point! Someone needs a spine. bitterross May 2019 #111
I'd bet my firstborn he completely agrees with the OP. Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #118
Uh what? Singer is famous for his utilitarian Voltaire2 May 2019 #70
If you have read any of his dissertations about Abrahamic theism, guillaumeb May 2019 #73
You demonstrated upthread that you Voltaire2 May 2019 #74
Ironic that your reply #71 demonstrates the opposite. guillaumeb May 2019 #76
Really? Let's go to the wiki. Voltaire2 May 2019 #77
Agreed. guillaumeb May 2019 #78
Wtf are you on about? Voltaire2 May 2019 #80
Have you already forgotten? guillaumeb May 2019 #81
Perhaps you should study his thinking in more detail and let us know. marylandblue May 2019 #84
You do understand that vegans are a subset of vegetarians right. Voltaire2 May 2019 #85
Also thinks deists are a subset of theists Major Nikon May 2019 #104
What kind of values are incompatible with atheism? Cartoonist May 2019 #7
And they are present in non-theists as well. guillaumeb May 2019 #10
And she's welcome to her story. MineralMan May 2019 #13
What lesson are we to take? guillaumeb May 2019 #18
And yet, you found it interesting enough to share here. MineralMan May 2019 #22
Your many anecdotal observations support your own narrative. guillaumeb May 2019 #23
It's not that I don't like the anecdote. MineralMan May 2019 #25
We understand how MM's post supports his narrative. marylandblue May 2019 #45
Thank you. MineralMan May 2019 #46
Needs further explanation Cartoonist May 2019 #17
You listed several things that are present in humans. guillaumeb May 2019 #20
You missed Cartoonist May 2019 #26
The logic behind your question is puzzling to me. guillaumeb May 2019 #27
No Cartoonist May 2019 #31
Yes, she did claim that. guillaumeb May 2019 #34
It is exclusive Cartoonist May 2019 #37
Do all theists hate? guillaumeb May 2019 #39
I never said all Cartoonist May 2019 #40
You cannot logically assert that you know why theists hate. guillaumeb May 2019 #41
Jeez, whatever gave me that idea? Cartoonist May 2019 #47
Those values are incompatible with *your* atheism, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #14
Well, it was just an anecdote about one person's decision. MineralMan May 2019 #21
People publish personal anecdotes all the time. Obviously it meant something to the author, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #24
Falconry? guillaumeb May 2019 #28
I find personal anecdotes to be very interesting when they are MineralMan May 2019 #29
Sarah seems superficial on Christianity Bretton Garcia May 2019 #90
Rose-colored glasses are very popular, I understand, MineralMan May 2019 #99
She also appears to not realize... trotsky May 2019 #101
Yes, I don't like those values, either. MineralMan May 2019 #16
Not so much incompatible as non-complimentary Major Nikon May 2019 #92
Singer also made an ethical case for Vegetarianism/Veganism. AtheistCrusader May 2019 #138
Anyone who is convinced by "Mere Christianity" wasn't looking for answers. trotsky May 2019 #36
So you dismissed her claim of being an atheist? guillaumeb May 2019 #38
I'm commenting on how awful Mere Christianity is. trotsky May 2019 #42
So you accept that she was an atheist, and retract your claim? guillaumeb May 2019 #44
You clearly didn't read what I wrote. trotsky May 2019 #50
Looked more like a desire for strawman Major Nikon May 2019 #93
She says she was from a "secular" family Bretton Garcia May 2019 #95
I've read "Mere Christianity," and although it's a beautifully-written explanation The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #43
I share that criticism of that book. MineralMan May 2019 #48
I was raised a Christian. trotsky May 2019 #51
Yes. The book has helped many on their road to atheism. MineralMan May 2019 #55
Since you don't like religion and were predisposed to disagree The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #53
Actually, you're incorrect about that. MineralMan May 2019 #57
Wheaton Cartoonist May 2019 #59
Yeah, I agree. MineralMan May 2019 #64
I probably wouldn't have lasted long there. MineralMan May 2019 #87
OK, fair enough. I read it when I was much older, and because The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #82
I'm sort of naturally logical in my approach MineralMan May 2019 #86
The entire piece rings of bullshit Major Nikon May 2019 #94
Sure does. trotsky May 2019 #98
You can hear the same horseshit from batshit crazy streetcorner preachers Major Nikon May 2019 #103
Hey now. He doesn't always tell people how wrong they are. trotsky May 2019 #105
... Major Nikon May 2019 #106
Thoughts? Cartoonist May 2019 #49
It's also a two-year-old piece. trotsky May 2019 #54
Damn! I didn't notice the date. MineralMan May 2019 #58
Very good. guillaumeb May 2019 #62
Whatever you need for your agenda, g. trotsky May 2019 #96
Well, two years is quite some time, and Sarah may have changed her mind MineralMan May 2019 #117
Yes, the Rec standard. guillaumeb May 2019 #61
You're the one who has claimed to have a giant fan club sending you private messages. trotsky May 2019 #97
going to church, several of them, drove me to atheism. demigoddess May 2019 #56
How Christians drove me to atheism. Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #100
"I knelt in my closet in my apartment and asked Jesus" MineralMan May 2019 #102
Another interesting stand-out. AtheistCrusader May 2019 #139
Many of the indigenous cultures they encountered MineralMan May 2019 #145
Sarah Irving-Stonebraker, and Science-Fiction Christianity Bretton Garcia May 2019 #122
I didn't know anything about Singer before, but I see he has a unique moral perspective marylandblue May 2019 #124
The fundamental error is believing that one person, Peter Singer, MineralMan May 2019 #125
Great words as usual Ferrets are Cool May 2019 #126
I think is a general discomfort with the idea that there is no ultimate justice. marylandblue May 2019 #129
I would think that Humanism might represent the ethics edhopper May 2019 #134
All atheists "represent" atheism. guillaumeb May 2019 #142
All atheists represent themselves. MineralMan May 2019 #143
We disagree. guillaumeb May 2019 #144
Of course we disagree. MineralMan May 2019 #147
So we can judge Christianity by the examples of individual Christians? marylandblue May 2019 #148
Do we not judge everyone by their actions? guillaumeb May 2019 #150
Based on everything you've said before, no category is relevant for any purpose. marylandblue May 2019 #152
We all act for our own reasons. guillaumeb May 2019 #153
Atheists on this site have been telling you this for years. marylandblue May 2019 #154
If that is your preferred narrative, I understand. eom guillaumeb May 2019 #155
Or so you have convinced yourself. MineralMan May 2019 #156
Ironically, I think the same thing about many of your posts. eom guillaumeb May 2019 #159
Yah, OK, then. MineralMan May 2019 #161
My preferred narrative is called "the truth." marylandblue May 2019 #157
What is truth? guillaumeb May 2019 #160
It's very weird for a Christian to quote Pilate's cynical question. marylandblue May 2019 #162
What an odd thing to bring up... MineralMan May 2019 #163
Truth has many meanings. guillaumeb May 2019 #164
No, not really. MineralMan May 2019 #165
You are confused about the various meanings of the word truth. guillaumeb May 2019 #166
I believe this form of lying is called dissembling. marylandblue May 2019 #167
Perhaps you should research the word truth. guillaumeb May 2019 #168
I did research the word. And I know a postmodern narrative when I see one. marylandblue May 2019 #169
And what type of truth are there? guillaumeb May 2019 #170
What makes your narrative postmodern, is that you can take any text marylandblue May 2019 #171
And what was the clear intent? guillaumeb May 2019 #172
Well, since I am the one who brought up the word "truth," marylandblue May 2019 #173
Thank you for the clarification of intent. eom guillaumeb May 2019 #177
Well now that you know why I picked that word, perhaps you could consider marylandblue May 2019 #178
"You are confused" trotsky May 2019 #174
... Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #175
No, actually, I am not. MineralMan May 2019 #176
Whether or not you agree with Singer his methods are far superior Major Nikon May 2019 #128
Divine Justice? Cartoonist May 2019 #130
Who do you think I might be paraphrasing? marylandblue May 2019 #131
Peter Singer Cartoonist May 2019 #132
I was paraphrasing a quick survey of her impression of what he seems to be saying. marylandblue May 2019 #133
My thoughts are that for someone who apparently got her PhD from Cambridge, logic or clear writing muriel_volestrangler May 2019 #135
Irving-Stonebraker writes a cliched "captivity," then "conversion narrative" Bretton Garcia May 2019 #136
I am convinced it's a narrative crafted to appeal to evangelical christians. AtheistCrusader May 2019 #140
Or Irving-Stonebraker genuinely loves cliches Bretton Garcia May 2019 #158
'Bullpucky'. AtheistCrusader May 2019 #137
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