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It's all made up and it's illogical in the extreme PJMcK Jul 2019 #1
Genesis 1 and 2 describe different gods. They have different names, occupy different Karadeniz Jul 2019 #11
Those two chapters tell very different stories PJMcK Jul 2019 #13
a "most determined materialist" is.... sanatanadharma Jul 2019 #27
That is utter nonsense edhopper Jul 2019 #41
Nor is there evidence that the brain is the source of consciousness. gtar100 Jul 2019 #68
When you find a conciousness existed edhopper Jul 2019 #71
May be your definition of consciousness is too narrow. gtar100 Jul 2019 #72
A confusion of evolutionary driven behavior edhopper Jul 2019 #73
Your choice. But I'm not confused by it at all. gtar100 Jul 2019 #74
That is exactly how it happens edhopper Jul 2019 #75
Your last sentence makes no sense whatsoever Major Nikon Jul 2019 #20
That is one of the points... pangaia Jul 2019 #77
Is that you Deepak? edhopper Jul 2019 #42
I like to think that returning to source, though it may be inevitable, isn't necessarily the purpose gtar100 Jul 2019 #69
When the orthodox got rid of all the heretics, they lost the people who knew the higher teachings. pangaia Jul 2019 #76
Divine hiddenness Buzz cook Jul 2019 #55
The Gnostics have an interesting take on this. To them, the Old Testament God is the "abominable" Midnight Writer Jul 2019 #101
The Gnostic texts are fascinating PJMcK Jul 2019 #102
It did. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #2
Upon what do you base that? /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #6
The fact that, after language, every group of any size with a written language guillaumeb Jul 2019 #7
Any deity in a storm I guess. /nt tonedevil Jul 2019 #8
The fact that theism seems to be ingrained. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #9
What is this theism you speak of? tonedevil Jul 2019 #12
so you can't keep your argument coherent. Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #21
That you cannot follow the argument does not reflect on me. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #29
So you agree there is no evidence that theistic beliefs are the default condition for humans. Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #33
Please prove that statement with some sort of evidence. MineralMan Jul 2019 #23
Really? PJMcK Jul 2019 #14
By default condition, I was referring to theism. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #15
I understood your point PJMcK Jul 2019 #17
That conflict is inherent in being human. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #18
[Citation needed] Act_of_Reparation Jul 2019 #30
All of human history would make for a very large post. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #31
History isn't evidence of naturalism. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2019 #32
You don't have the ability to cite all of human history. trotsky Jul 2019 #65
You could start writing it now, and come back when you're finished... MineralMan Jul 2019 #70
No, not really. That idea has no basis in fact and is more than just a bit silly. Major Nikon Jul 2019 #19
It is not. You have no evidence that what you said is true. MineralMan Jul 2019 #22
"Theism is the default condition among humans for a reason." hurl Jul 2019 #38
There appears to be an evolutionary component edhopper Jul 2019 #43
Not exactly 'default' but we are predisposed to it. AtheistCrusader Jul 2019 #50
That statement is factually wrong in multiple ways. n/t trotsky Jul 2019 #61
By using us he is spreading the word. marble falls Jul 2019 #3
Whoosh... NeoGreen Jul 2019 #4
We are everywhere. We use our free will and take the Gospel to the world. marble falls Jul 2019 #24
So Christianity is the true relgion edhopper Jul 2019 #44
It is for me. You get to decide for yourself ... marble falls Jul 2019 #45
Sounds more like you want to convince everyone else edhopper Jul 2019 #51
It would be a fools errand to try to convince anyone, self included to believe. marble falls Jul 2019 #53
Yet it sounds like you support missionary work edhopper Jul 2019 #54
I support missionary work. Anything that disrupts indiginous people ... marble falls Jul 2019 #57
Well said. eom guillaumeb Jul 2019 #10
Who? PJMcK Jul 2019 #16
G*d doesn't screw up. We all have free will to accept or not. marble falls Jul 2019 #25
is your god all powerful? Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #34
Yes, but he doesn't do parlor tricks and we aren't robots. We all have free will ... marble falls Jul 2019 #35
So when my son was nearly killed, and permanently injured by a drug resistant infection Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #36
First of all, I am so sorry to hear of your son's terrible injury, if something ... marble falls Jul 2019 #37
Your ineffable f'ing god is indistinguishable Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #64
I am sorry, again. marble falls Jul 2019 #66
I call full and absolute BS on the idea that "he doesn't do parlor tricks"... NeoGreen Jul 2019 #46
Water into wine was not a parlor trick. It was a simple miracle from a working man ... marble falls Jul 2019 #47
Sure...you go with that...'miracles'... NeoGreen Jul 2019 #48
And you go with whatever it is you need take from it all with you ... marble falls Jul 2019 #49
He? How do you know? pangaia Jul 2019 #78
You have a good point. He, she, it ... it doesn't matter and it doesn't detract from ... marble falls Jul 2019 #79
What about Zen Buddhists? pangaia Jul 2019 #80
Zen Buddhists believe you can be Buddhist and Christian, or Islam etc ... marble falls Jul 2019 #81
How can you sell something without salespeople? MineralMan Jul 2019 #5
Omnipresent? peasant one Jul 2019 #26
Every good business models 3c273a Jul 2019 #28
Star Trek: Why does God need a starship? keithbvadu2 Jul 2019 #39
If God cares about us, He is a terrible communicator. MarvinGardens Jul 2019 #40
Why is it... ADX Jul 2019 #52
Agreed. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #56
Yeah, I know... ADX Jul 2019 #58
If you are personally offended by the apparent ridicule of an IDEA... NeoGreen Jul 2019 #59
Hi NeoGreen - As a Christian, I greatly appreciate the opportunity that this forum provides to Pendrench Jul 2019 #60
LMMFAO... ADX Jul 2019 #63
Yes, we're obviously stupid. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2019 #83
LOL... ADX Jul 2019 #84
Like I said, we are clearly stupid. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2019 #86
I've got time right now, ready for your answer? Here it is... ADX Jul 2019 #87
Yeah, but not quite as simple as this being a public fucking forum. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2019 #88
You seem to take offense at many things here. Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #90
Nah, I'm good... ADX Jul 2019 #94
If you weren't offended, then obviously, the post wasn't for you... NeoGreen Jul 2019 #89
If the post wasn't for me... ADX Jul 2019 #91
Yes, you are absolutely correct... NeoGreen Jul 2019 #92
I don't remember asking a question... ADX Jul 2019 #93
I wasn't answering a question... NeoGreen Jul 2019 #95
Blah, blah, fucking blah... ADX Jul 2019 #96
Now it's my turn to LMFAO... NeoGreen Jul 2019 #97
Oh and, for the record #2... NeoGreen Jul 2019 #98
Sounds just like the Trump tweets about the "vile and disgusting things" that he claims Omar said. trotsky Jul 2019 #62
Hey, look. A case study in religious privilege. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2019 #82
Hey look! A case study in atheistic privilege... ADX Jul 2019 #85
Interesting. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2019 #99
Again, parallels to Trump. trotsky Jul 2019 #100
Because missionaries are tools of a corrupt system designed by humans. gtar100 Jul 2019 #67
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