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trotsky

(49,533 posts) Tue Dec 17, 2019, 10:52 AM Dec 2019

Hallmark Apologizes, Backtracks After Saying It Would Pull Ads with Lesbian Kiss [View all]

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/12/16/hallmark-apologizes-backtracks-after-saying-it-would-pull-ads-with-lesbian-kiss/

After a weekend full of bad publicity for Hallmark, the company is reversing its position on airing an ad featuring a same-sex wedding.

The company, which owns the Hallmark Channel, said it would pull an ad from wedding planning site Zola after the conservative Christian hate group One Million Moms (Twitter count: 4187) whined about how the channel was “no longer allowing parents to be the primary educators when it comes to sex and sexual morality.”

...And now, after a weekend of people calling for boycotts of Hallmark — during the holiday season, no less — for caving in to an anti-LGBTQ Christian group, Hallmark’s CEO says the ads will be returning and the earlier decision was the wrong one. Here’s the statement from CEO Mike Perry:

"Earlier this week, a decision was made at Crown Media Family Networks to remove commercials featuring a same-sex couple. The Crown Media team has been agonizing over this decision as we’ve seen the hurt it has unintentionally caused. Said simply, they believe this was the wrong decision. Our mission is rooted in helping all people connect, celebrate traditions, and be inspired to capture meaningful moments in their lives. Anything that detracts for this purpose is not who we are. As the CEO of Hallmark, I am sorry for the hurt and disappointment this has caused."

It is a good feeling to know that the power of love and diversity is stronger than the power of religious bigotry.

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Hallmark Apologizes, Backtracks After Saying It Would Pull Ads with Lesbian Kiss [View all] trotsky Dec 2019 OP

Maybe we should send them a card or something underpants Dec 2019 #1

! (n/t) PJMcK Dec 2019 #3

Thoughts and prayers Major Nikon Dec 2019 #5

Your analysis is very optimistic and I admire you for that PJMcK Dec 2019 #2

I don't think that d_r Dec 2019 #52

I think it was the power of money Major Nikon Dec 2019 #4

Oh it's definitely about the money, don't get me wrong. trotsky Dec 2019 #6

The fact that this is the Halmark channel makes the lining a little more silver Major Nikon Dec 2019 #7

For Hallmark, it was only a matter of counting. MineralMan Dec 2019 #8

So what's next from 4000 Moms? Cartoonist Dec 2019 #9

Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong among the least gay-friendly cities ranked in global survey guillaumeb Dec 2019 #10

Not quite. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2019 #11

You can refute the article, guillaumeb Dec 2019 #12

I can do both, actually. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2019 #13

And the truth is, China is very intolerant of theists, and LGBTQ people. eom guillaumeb Dec 2019 #14

And what does that have to do with the Hallmark Channel rejecting bigotry? trotsky Dec 2019 #18

The topic is intolerance for LGBTQ people. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #21

Oh so YOU'RE allowed to veer off into any topic you want, trotsky Dec 2019 #23

Ironic, given your own demonstrated behavior. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #25

So I deserve it? trotsky Dec 2019 #28

Do you deserve it? guillaumeb Dec 2019 #31

I don't think I do. trotsky Dec 2019 #33

I believe that you feel this way. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #34

That's fine. You can believe what you want. trotsky Dec 2019 #36

Where in the Atheist Bible does Not-God command the persecution of theists and LGBTQ people? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2019 #19

With metaphor all things are possible Major Nikon Dec 2019 #26

#whataboutism trotsky Dec 2019 #15

If only you recognized how often you engage in it. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #16

#deflection and #projection trotsky Dec 2019 #17

Yes, you do engage in that as well. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #20

So your excuse for behaving badly is that you think others are behaving badly. trotsky Dec 2019 #22

I am employing the scientific method of observation and analysis. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #24

In other words, you judge others, and dispense "eye for an eye" justice. trotsky Dec 2019 #29

Sad that you reject the scientific method. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #32

Of course I don't. You are deflecting so you don't have to acknowledge your behavior. trotsky Dec 2019 #35

So if you are guilty, guillaumeb Dec 2019 #37

Oh look, it's a variation on "I'm not judging you, the bible is!" trotsky Dec 2019 #39

You must judge yourself. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #40

Continued deflection. trotsky Dec 2019 #41

Yes, it is. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #42

Let the record show I gave you yet another chance to get out of the muck. trotsky Dec 2019 #47

Not to mention the best defense for Whataboutism is more Whataboutism Major Nikon Dec 2019 #27

Just say that it's warranted because the person you disagree with does it. trotsky Dec 2019 #30

The Chinese have no religous basis for discrimination. It's cultural. AtheistCrusader Dec 2019 #43

It makes no difference to the victims. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #44

You don't seem to understand how humans work. AtheistCrusader Dec 2019 #45

We agree that authoritarians will behave as authoritarians. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #46

If you understand humans, why do you keep banging that 'atheist' drum about China, when it AtheistCrusader Dec 2019 #48

If it is a political theocracy, guillaumeb Dec 2019 #49

Which explains why you keep banging on about China and only China. AtheistCrusader Dec 2019 #50

You missed the point. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #54

And yet you keep citing communist nations. AtheistCrusader Dec 2019 #55

So you are using the "no true Scotsman" fallacy guillaumeb Dec 2019 #56

Uh no, I specified 13 (nearly 14) other nations above the 50% mark on population atheism. AtheistCrusader Dec 2019 #57

You said: guillaumeb Dec 2019 #58

You know what Theistic means right? AtheistCrusader Dec 2019 #59

A nice try, and I could ask the same question of you. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #60

I didn't invent my own definitions. I observed what the subject nations ARE. AtheistCrusader Dec 2019 #61

Allow me to ask a related question. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #62

I don't see how it's related, but I'm sure you know, that is unknown. AtheistCrusader Dec 2019 #63

If anyone points to a society that apepars to be free of intolerance, guillaumeb Dec 2019 #64

...agonizing over this decision as we've seen the hurt it has unintentionally caused. Mariana Dec 2019 #38

The 'hurt' was to their pocketbook estimates. Hallmark is a corporation selling things. AtheistCrusader Dec 2019 #51

Extremely profitable (high-margin) things I would add ... that can RATHER easily be done without ... mr_lebowski Dec 2019 #53