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turtlerescue1

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56. Lord be with me as I stupidly repond to this thread.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 09:58 AM
Jun 2012

BUT first a dot of humor. About nine years old my dad makes me an offer that just couldn't be refused; he would pay me $2 a week to laugh at his jokes, two conditions: 1) have to laugh at all of his jokes, EVERY time he told them and 2) could never let mom know. So being the greedy child in love with the entire penny and nickel candy counter at the corner store.... Still especially "So I said to the lady with the wooden leg, "Peg.", it did get to be a challenge to respond with an actual LAUGH. To THIS day every time I hear myself or someone else say "On the other hand" automatically come the words"She had a wart". The results were an adult life where one is easily amused- of course the downside is being easily amused is only happy for me personally.

That said, and this is offered as sincerely as possible AND if I can actually manage to get the link posted here. If you can't laugh at yourself, then who is worth laughing at. At the site go to wherever it says lutheran humor.
http://www.oldlutheran.com/oldlutheran/page.php

As to this thread:

The truth is I find the comments and even barbs of atheists and skeptics less inflammatory as compared to the destruction and belittling done by the Fundies! I did not know this would be so, but this is most certainly true.

Don't look for me to attack you or your beliefs. Science can explain much, give us security about when and how and perhaps why. We know that different areas of the brain implement specific activities...but we cannot know what the precise thought is, it just comes across as "activity". Where does inspiration come from? How did Pachelbel get those notes to his music? The problem with too many of my species is the inability to see or taste or hear and remaining untouched. Some of us see that American Flag go by in a parade and tears run down our cheeks. The taste of the perfect peach, I grew up amid orchards, and each summer sought that perfect peach, the color, the softness, the juiciness, the size and of course its sweetness. Guess am trying to get to the individuality.
It is my belief that each of us comes with a soul, belonging to no one else to control or manipulate, we use our reasonings to grow it- or give into it. The ONE fallacy is the rediculous belief we have the right to impact the soul of another life.

Spirituality isn't the source of the problem, its the fools that interpret and demand to be in control in Religion.These folks have little sense of humor. What would have been the reason for turning water into wine? No one asks that. Why did Nimrod want to build his Tower so he could be eye-to-eye with God? Why did the Jewish people wander so any decades in the desert, when it should only have been a six month walk at most? IF there is an afterlife, I dunno this one takes up most of my focus. Yet if there is a chance to ask questions, whether my judgement is up or down, I've a LOT of questions first. Someone told me that at the moment of death, there's this AHA, "so that's what it meant", moment.
Took on hospice cases, my rent demanded it, and not one of them writhed in anguish, dying is a lot of physical work, systems have to shut down, etc. BUT in "natural death" there is this time of quiet tranquility. Dunno where that comes from.

Likely due to being paid to laugh at dad's jokes influenced my concept of Deity, mine has a sense of humor, a sense of compassion, and that overused word love. Artist, poet and genius. yeah, that's the one! Respect and FEAR are not necessarily the same. Worse, personally there are have too many instances where after a while "coincidence" quits working. I call these miracles, they were out of nowhere, small, significant only to my personal existence. They are like the time I climbed a massive rock to watch the sunset on the Pacific, the crashing of the waves was overwhelming, the taste of the mist all over your face. Then out of nowhere, that ebb tide, that small time period where it was the silence that was deafening-not what the physical and senses were used to. My greatest flaw is my idea that I have some great RIGHT to independence, the pride and vanity that I can do this all and all by myself. So being sustained was quite the shock, and repeatedly makes it a definite impact.
Humility.
Yeah, I'll be working on that one quite a while.

When a commonality becomes organized, that seems to be when there is bruising. Like that perfect peach, you can't find it in the produce aisle for all the reasons its perfect.

Peace be with you, your minds may not believe, but your actions are decent and honorable. UNLIKE some that claim to be of my Beliefs.

okay the old broad did not manage to get the link to appear...another DUH? moment

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Just like organized religion, movement atheism is not for everybody. daaron Jun 2012 #1
You make good sense. I couldn't agree more. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #58
He's correct. At least on DU, 'atheists' are some of the most vicious promulgators of ignorance Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #2
I'd like a link to DU atheists "repeating anti gay superstitions" EvolveOrConvolve Jun 2012 #4
Wow that is some tune you are whistling there. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #5
I will wait patiently for those theists who say they will fight bigotry against atheists Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #7
Don't hold your breath nt mr blur Jun 2012 #29
Yeah, I have to admit that I'm pretty damn disappointed at the lack of response from them here. eqfan592 Jun 2012 #36
That's quite a leap and I don't agree with you. cbayer Jun 2012 #38
It is when you have promised explicitly skepticscott Jun 2012 #39
The post was specifically about theists who claim to stand up against this sort of thing. eqfan592 Jun 2012 #40
There are similar things said about theists here and no one is obligated to defend anyone. cbayer Jun 2012 #41
THIS is why I am uncomfortable with you as a host: Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #43
Cbayer, read my post again. eqfan592 Jun 2012 #44
I, and others, have said that they will object to bigotry. cbayer Jun 2012 #45
"At least on DU, 'atheists' are some of the most vicious promulgators of ignorance" eqfan592 Jun 2012 #47
I could be wrong, as she has not returned to further explain, but cbayer Jun 2012 #49
I don't know how you can read that post as not being aimed at atheists in general to be perfectly... eqfan592 Jun 2012 #50
You could be right, equfan592. cbayer Jun 2012 #52
You are most welcome! eqfan592 Jun 2012 #53
So let's clarify dmallind Jun 2012 #84
It has become apparent that she was talking specifically about one member... cbayer Jun 2012 #85
Where was this made apparent? eqfan592 Jun 2012 #88
Here is a post in a thread in A/A Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #89
Thanks, tho if that was really her intent... eqfan592 Jun 2012 #90
Sometimes emotions get the best of us. Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #91
True, but that doesn't exactly excuse the fact that the person in question did a "drive by." eqfan592 Jun 2012 #94
Oh that part of it pisses me off, too. Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #95
Thanks, Goblinmonger. I appreciate this. cbayer Jun 2012 #93
Hey, I'm an atheist and didn't feel attacked by it. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #57
That is shocking. Just jaw dropping, really. WhollyHeretic Jun 2012 #60
I never mentioned homophobia. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #62
The post you're agreeing with does. But since you want to move the goalposts why don't you provide a WhollyHeretic Jun 2012 #63
Firstly, there are no goalposts to be moved. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #66
This is a subthread about bluenothwest's post. That's the post you seemed to be agreeing with. WhollyHeretic Jun 2012 #67
OK, link to these posts you speak of Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #68
I am not speaking of specific posts and do not have the time to do your homework for you. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #71
Like cbayer, you chide atheists for being negative EvolveOrConvolve Jun 2012 #72
All right. Link to the pretty piss poor behavior. rug Jun 2012 #73
It's not my homework Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #74
Speaking of calling out, here's your chance. rug Jun 2012 #75
I don't think I've ever been reluctant to say what I think to you. Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #76
Nor have you been reluctant to say it in a group closed to replies. rug Jun 2012 #77
I think your portrayal of me in A/A is dishonest. Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #78
There was more than one callout thread. rug Jun 2012 #79
Send them to me in a PM. n/t Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #80
Don't expect me to send you a pm. rug Jun 2012 #81
Oh, I know I'm a big meanie Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #82
Hardly. But I don't like sauerkraut either. rug Jun 2012 #83
You have, on NUMEROUS occasions skepticscott Jun 2012 #54
To me, the post is obviously a personal attack against myself, and every single other nonbeliever ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #98
As has been pointed out in a thread in A/A, this appears to have been aimed cbayer Jun 2012 #99
Linking to the post for an explanation Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #100
Hmmmmm..... EvolveOrConvolve Jun 2012 #55
So rather than say that the post was bigotry Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #42
I'll make a request for those links. Silent3 Jun 2012 #10
Darwin Central is a rightwing shithole. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #12
I just spent a few minutes checking it out. eqfan592 Jun 2012 #51
I also would like to see the links. madmom Jun 2012 #11
Chirp... chirp-chirp... chirp... daaron Jun 2012 #13
Where are these links? You've been asked by a number of people and haven't responded WhollyHeretic Jun 2012 #14
You throw unbelievable shit out there, and say you have links. Curmudgeoness Jun 2012 #21
Three jurors had no problem. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #27
I know that, but it says more about those jurors Curmudgeoness Jun 2012 #30
Put up or shut up. Warpy Jun 2012 #22
"anyone wanting links can have them by request" kdmorris Jun 2012 #24
haha, you sure have us frogmarch Jun 2012 #32
... SidDithers Jun 2012 #87
I strongly disagree with your assessment of me. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #97
Proverbs 11:6 pipoman Jun 2012 #3
Jesus Christ. If you want some overt homophobia and misogyny go to almost Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #6
While that is true, it does not erase the fact that there have been complaints of both in cbayer Jun 2012 #9
Hey, I'm with you. I'd be outta that atheist group in a hot second, and loudly. daaron Jun 2012 #15
Yes, your *conversion* has been rapid and complete. cbayer Jun 2012 #16
Yep atheism has problems with some not-so-great people. Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #25
Definitely aware of sexism and racism, but as I posted elsewhere --> daaron Jun 2012 #34
I don't find a lot of these labels very helpful, and for many, they are far from static. cbayer Jun 2012 #35
I disrespectfully agree. Just kidding! I just regular agree. daaron Jun 2012 #46
There are indeed debating teams here, but I think most of the people who post cbayer Jun 2012 #48
You fail to honestly identify the difference skepticscott Jun 2012 #37
Growing pains. cbayer Jun 2012 #8
Groups? Schmoups. daaron Jun 2012 #17
There are groups for many reasons. cbayer Jun 2012 #19
Not just my experience alone. daaron Jun 2012 #28
Happy Father's Day, daaron. cbayer Jun 2012 #31
Why, thank you. And no prob. :D nt daaron Jun 2012 #33
And that has what, exactly, to do with skepticscott Jun 2012 #23
WOW! ret5hd Jun 2012 #18
You may want to read the full link before embarassing yourself further. rug Jun 2012 #20
The poster seems to think your ops somehow reflect your Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #26
Lord be with me as I stupidly repond to this thread. turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #56
Enjoyed your post. Can I help you with the link problem? cbayer Jun 2012 #59
$2! My kids charge $5. rug Jun 2012 #61
Yeah, but nine years old for me was turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #64
Here is your link cbayer Jun 2012 #65
I do not like lutefisk and yams, I do not like them Sven I am struggle4progress Jun 2012 #69
I refuse to indulge in them myself. rug Jun 2012 #70
For anyone who's actually following this story --> daaron Jun 2012 #86
YAWN! nt Deep13 Jun 2012 #92
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See Moon. Bark at Moon. eom Kolesar Jun 2012 #101
After 12 years of Catholic school, HockeyMom Jun 2012 #102
Ironic that Jen McCreight is mentioned onager Jun 2012 #103
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