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36. Zerzan

Sat Dec 24, 2011, 07:32 PM

Dec 2011

the anarchoprimitivist, blames ancient shamans for "The Fall" of mankind into civilization, for symbolism, art, mathematics, etc. Zerzan's case deserves to be critiqued in many ways - that go beyond the scope of this reply - and religion (as part of civilizations) and shamanhood (universal in all hunter-gatherer societies) are not same, but OP could be using 'religion' in the widest sense, so this might deserve mention.

On particulars, Plato's Akademeia (-> Academy) was a religious cult in Athens, and Museion (-> Museums etc.) of Alexandria which included the famous library etc. was a religious cult dedicated to Muses. Origins of Western science are Greek religious cults, and it was Medieval monasteries that preserved most of the ancient literature we today have available.

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What contirbution has religion given to the advancement of mankind that has come from nowhere else? [View all] cleanhippie Dec 2011 OP

None at all...... frebrd Dec 2011 #1

You may be right. I would have thought there would be some examples. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #2

Religion has been a huge intertwined part of our world for LARED Dec 2011 #3

Well, from my POV, everything we as humans have achieved, did not come from religion. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #4

What you seem to be actually asking is LARED Dec 2011 #20

I can see how you might think that, but I am simply asking what advancements rteligion has brought cleanhippie Dec 2011 #23

Why are you so concerned about being right? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #37

It was useful to control the masses Eliminator Dec 2011 #5

If Islam replaced the word religion people would be all over this post denouncing it and would be Quartermass Dec 2011 #6

How is asking a question racist/bigoted? moobu2 Dec 2011 #7

I am having trouble figuring out how you Angry Dragon Dec 2011 #9

Consider the following pairs of phrases: ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #10

I really don't understand where you came up with that defintion of bigotry. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #16

I thought only Dorian Gray Dec 2011 #60

Well, some are more sacred than others. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #61

OK, What contirbution has Islam given to the advancement of mankind that has come from nowhere else? mr blur Dec 2011 #21

Asking "What has Islam contributed to human society?" is not bigoted. ChadwickHenryWard Dec 2011 #25

Positive religious experiences. ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #8

I think it's actually the opposite tinrobot Dec 2011 #14

Siddhartha learned meditation through his birth religion, Hinduism. nt ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #27

...and where did the first Hindu learn meditation? tinrobot Dec 2011 #29

They developed it to be closer to their gods. ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #30

Gunpowder was invented by Taoist alchemists tinrobot Dec 2011 #11

But was it a result of the religion? laconicsax Dec 2011 #12

Did their religion give them some kind of knowledge that they used to make gunpowder? cleanhippie Dec 2011 #17

There's this.... dmallind Dec 2011 #13

There is what? Architecture? Construction techniques? Engineering? cleanhippie Dec 2011 #18

Find me a non-religious building that spectacular dmallind Dec 2011 #33

It is a beautiful building, but humankind has not advanced because of it. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #35

I get it now... dmallind Dec 2011 #40

Unfortunately, no, you don't get it. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #43

The first rule of research... rrneck Dec 2011 #45

List of Roman Catholic cleric�scientists tinrobot Dec 2011 #15

Did they get their scientific education and knowledge from religion? cleanhippie Dec 2011 #19

You're moving the target. tinrobot Dec 2011 #22

Hmm, thats an interesting way of looking at my question. And you are right. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #24

Religion is just one ingredient of many... tinrobot Dec 2011 #31

I like your cake analogy. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #32

Well, for a more on topic response; Quartermass Dec 2011 #26

That is an intersting list. Did their belief in a deity, or the dogma of their religion lead to.. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #28

I think you might be asking an unfair question there. rrneck Dec 2011 #34

Zerzan tama Dec 2011 #36

Religion, at least the Christian forms of religion, are not LARED Dec 2011 #38

I couldn't agree more. Christianity has never been concerned with the betterment of man. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #39

That's not my experience. nt LARED Dec 2011 #41

Hmm, thats not what you just stated above. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #42

I was referring to the snarky part of your comment LARED Dec 2011 #46

That was not snark. I meant every word. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #50

I'm sure you did LARED Dec 2011 #51

Uhm, okay. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #52

You might want to confirm the definition of snarky if you don't like what I say. nt LARED Dec 2011 #53

I see a trend with your posts: you could care less about what a person actually says... cleanhippie Dec 2011 #54

The irony of this post is breathtaking. cbayer Dec 2011 #55

If you say so... cleanhippie Dec 2011 #56

+1 nt LARED Dec 2011 #57

Hmm, strange for a Christian believer to say that. I mean... MarkCharles Dec 2011 #44

Not strange at all LARED Dec 2011 #47

Is there Christianity tama Dec 2011 #48

Sure they can nt LARED Dec 2011 #49

Scientism As Rationalization And Ultimate Religion Jim__ Dec 2011 #58

relgion has provided social structure where it probably did more good than the lack of the structure lindysalsagal Dec 2011 #59