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14. No it isn't.

Reply to trotsky (Reply #13)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:15 PM

Jun 2012

If you, for whatever reason, think there are significant amounts of people who think you are a "subhuman monster", that is something for you to resolve in your own mind. I seriously doubt that's the reality.

The article asserts many people have false perceptions about self-proclaimed atheists. That is indisputably true. She further asserts this is due in large part due to willful ignorance. That I dispute. But it's a fair discussion.

That is a discussion I will have. Not whether and why people consider you a subhuman monster. I'm sure there are places where that discussion will be well received.

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Why Are Believers Willfully Ignorant About Atheists? [View all] rug Jun 2012 OP

Do you think it's true, rug? n/t trotsky Jun 2012 #1

No. With some exceptions, no. rug Jun 2012 #2

What are these exceptions? n/t trotsky Jun 2012 #3

"Willfully Ignorant" usually means you know better. rug Jun 2012 #4

So you think it's just plain ignorance to believe that atheists are sub-human monsters... trotsky Jun 2012 #5

That question has to many assumptions to answer. rug Jun 2012 #6

It's the core issue. trotsky Jun 2012 #13

No it isn't. rug Jun 2012 #14

Not even talking about that. I asked you two specific questions that you didn't answer. trotsky Jun 2012 #16

All right, this stops at "childish, petty attempts". rug Jun 2012 #22

Great to hear you'll drop that. trotsky Jun 2012 #25

I'm dropping this discussion. rug Jun 2012 #26

Trouble is, rug, once you join in, mr blur Jun 2012 #39

Frankly, this particular subthread fell apart when he introduced the notion of sub-human monsters. rug Jun 2012 #40

Atheists have a reason to grieve EvilAL Jun 2012 #7

That's a good point. rug Jun 2012 #9

That's the way it should be EvilAL Jun 2012 #10

The argument the minister is making is creepily similar to an argument made by a DU'er here Heddi Jun 2012 #8

^^THIS^^ Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #15

Could you give us the total score at this point? cbayer Jun 2012 #20

WTF? trotsky Jun 2012 #21

Yeah, I can Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #32

1 to 1 then cbayer Jun 2012 #33

It's pretty easy to say that a generic author is right about something Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #34

Ruh oh. 1 - 3 cbayer Jun 2012 #36

Watch out, you're quote-mining rug Jun 2012 #37

Thats how I roll. cbayer Jun 2012 #38

Thanks for those. Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #42

When do you start confronting anti-atheist bigotry like you said you would? Heddi Jun 2012 #43

I have had ONE Christian ask me to explain why I am an Atheist. SoutherDem Jun 2012 #11

I've yet to meet a fellow atheist who thought that reason and virtue mr blur Jun 2012 #12

Nor have I. LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #17

Is what true - that atheists don't experience grief, or that religious people suspect them of not LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #18

The latter. Thanks for your answer. rug Jun 2012 #23

Religion aside, I think the writer mistakes the point of grief dmallind Jun 2012 #19

I don't blame the author for being enraged by this. cbayer Jun 2012 #24

even dogs grieve, ffs. unblock Jun 2012 #27

That's very true. rug Jun 2012 #29

And elephants. cbayer Jun 2012 #30

This looks to me like one of those arguments meant to demean a subgroup rurallib Jun 2012 #28

My wife died...I am an atheist...yet I still grieve...why? Uben Jun 2012 #31

Those arguments are familiar to those who know the history of hatred of Jews. dimbear Jun 2012 #35

Dunbar preaches nonsense intaglio Jun 2012 #41