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Heddi

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43. When do you start confronting anti-atheist bigotry like you said you would?
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:11 PM
Jun 2012

You didn't do it in that thread I linked to, and you haven't done it here, or numerous other places when it's been pointed out to you.

You've said that as a host you would chastise bigotry from both sides when you see it...but when you see it from one side, you're silent. You only seem to confront it when it comes from posters who are known atheists or agnostics.

It's really unfair the things that were said about atheists in the thread that I linked to, that you were a part of, and that you, a host who has promised repeatedly to be fair and balanced with regards to religious issues, were silent towards 2 posters: one who made a series of hateful, bigoted, and UNTRUE statements about the ability of atheists to console, and one made by another poster who insinuated that I was "polishing my halo" by recounting true accounts of what the realities of working in a hospital are.

You were silent. And you're always silent unless it's the atheists being "uppity". Then you're right there, wagging your finger and pointing out how uncouth the behaviour is, and how it's deteriorating good discussion, and how it's about points and winning and all this nonsense.

When do you tell another poster that saying an atheist cannot console like a believer is EXACTLY the same as saying an African American can't ____ like a white person. Or that a woman can't ____ like a man. Or that a disabled person can't ____ like a non-disabled person can?

When do you actually start standing up for Atheists, like you promised that you would?

On edit: so you linked to 2 times that you suggested a poster not refer to atheists in a negative way, although that poster has a habit of referring to atheists in a negative way and equating them with Stalin, Hitler, etc.

So two times. Wow. That's stunning. I'm really overwhelmed at your equality. Two times. Wow. And how many dozen times have you wagged your finger and "tsk tsk'ed" at the atheists for the things we post, and the things we say, and how we're not contributing to thoughtful discussion?

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Do you think it's true, rug? n/t trotsky Jun 2012 #1
No. With some exceptions, no. rug Jun 2012 #2
What are these exceptions? n/t trotsky Jun 2012 #3
"Willfully Ignorant" usually means you know better. rug Jun 2012 #4
So you think it's just plain ignorance to believe that atheists are sub-human monsters... trotsky Jun 2012 #5
That question has to many assumptions to answer. rug Jun 2012 #6
It's the core issue. trotsky Jun 2012 #13
No it isn't. rug Jun 2012 #14
Not even talking about that. I asked you two specific questions that you didn't answer. trotsky Jun 2012 #16
All right, this stops at "childish, petty attempts". rug Jun 2012 #22
Great to hear you'll drop that. trotsky Jun 2012 #25
I'm dropping this discussion. rug Jun 2012 #26
Trouble is, rug, once you join in, mr blur Jun 2012 #39
Frankly, this particular subthread fell apart when he introduced the notion of sub-human monsters. rug Jun 2012 #40
Atheists have a reason to grieve EvilAL Jun 2012 #7
That's a good point. rug Jun 2012 #9
That's the way it should be EvilAL Jun 2012 #10
The argument the minister is making is creepily similar to an argument made by a DU'er here Heddi Jun 2012 #8
^^THIS^^ Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #15
Could you give us the total score at this point? cbayer Jun 2012 #20
WTF? trotsky Jun 2012 #21
Yeah, I can Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #32
1 to 1 then cbayer Jun 2012 #33
It's pretty easy to say that a generic author is right about something Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #34
Ruh oh. 1 - 3 cbayer Jun 2012 #36
Watch out, you're quote-mining rug Jun 2012 #37
Thats how I roll. cbayer Jun 2012 #38
Thanks for those. Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #42
When do you start confronting anti-atheist bigotry like you said you would? Heddi Jun 2012 #43
I have had ONE Christian ask me to explain why I am an Atheist. SoutherDem Jun 2012 #11
I've yet to meet a fellow atheist who thought that reason and virtue mr blur Jun 2012 #12
Nor have I. LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #17
Is what true - that atheists don't experience grief, or that religious people suspect them of not LeftishBrit Jun 2012 #18
The latter. Thanks for your answer. rug Jun 2012 #23
Religion aside, I think the writer mistakes the point of grief dmallind Jun 2012 #19
I don't blame the author for being enraged by this. cbayer Jun 2012 #24
even dogs grieve, ffs. unblock Jun 2012 #27
That's very true. rug Jun 2012 #29
And elephants. cbayer Jun 2012 #30
This looks to me like one of those arguments meant to demean a subgroup rurallib Jun 2012 #28
My wife died...I am an atheist...yet I still grieve...why? Uben Jun 2012 #31
Those arguments are familiar to those who know the history of hatred of Jews. dimbear Jun 2012 #35
Dunbar preaches nonsense intaglio Jun 2012 #41
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