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trotsky

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1. Lemon Test

Mon Jul 2, 2012, 01:28 PM

Jul 2012

1) The government's action must have a secular legislative purpose;
2) The government's action must not have the primary effect of either advancing or inhibiting religion;
3) The government's action must not result in an "excessive government entanglement" with religion.

Hard to see how any religious resolution - from the "Year of the Bible" to this one - passes even the first prong. It's grandstanding and pandering - and particularly pandering to Jews so that right wing Christians can give lip service using the code phrase "Judeo-Christian values."

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Pennsylvania Senate resolution recognizes period of Jewish High Holy Days [View all] rug Jul 2012 OP

Lemon Test trotsky Jul 2012 #1

Somebody better tell Obama before Passover. rug Jul 2012 #2

Oh, was that a legislative action? n/t trotsky Jul 2012 #3

It was governmental action. rug Jul 2012 #4

Oh, please do. trotsky Jul 2012 #8

It helps if you understand what constitutes a state and what constitues an action. rug Jul 2012 #9

Clearly you don't understand either. n/t trotsky Jul 2012 #10

The less sensitive the skin, the stronger the eyesight. rug Jul 2012 #12

Did you make that up all by yourself? trotsky Jul 2012 #15

. rug Jul 2012 #22

Thanks for your trademark Christian behavior, rug. trotsky Jul 2012 #24

You're welcome. rug Jul 2012 #25

I disagree COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #6

"It's purely secular." trotsky Jul 2012 #7

It's still secular - just that it would ignite COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #18

"secular" - You keep using that word. trotsky Jul 2012 #19

I'm a practicing attorney with a good COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #20

And I'm the President! trotsky Jul 2012 #21

Would you like me to p-mail you my COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #28

Absolutely! trotsky Jul 2012 #31

I can't locate instructions as to how to do this COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #33

Just click the little envelope icon next to my name. trotsky Jul 2012 #37

But to answer your question COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #29

Totally. trotsky Jul 2012 #32

I should have taken the advice of an COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #34

That's pretty condescending for someone who only gave a Black's Law definition. Goblinmonger Jul 2012 #35

Then please give me the benefit of your legal analysis COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #40

You have misstated the first prong of the Lemon test. trotsky Jul 2012 #44

Merely restating the three prongs of the Lemon COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #47

Ah, the truth comes out! trotsky Jul 2012 #48

Now you're just being silly. COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #49

Way to completely avoid my argument about definitions. Goblinmonger Jul 2012 #45

??? COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #46

Classy response! Thanks so much! trotsky Jul 2012 #36

Yeah, the "you just don't get it" response Goblinmonger Jul 2012 #38

Being able to do something is not COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #41

I understand. trotsky Jul 2012 #43

Why does the government need to "recognize" any religion at all? cleanhippie Jul 2012 #5

Thankfully rug is on the spot to defend this. trotsky Jul 2012 #11

Where is that? rug Jul 2012 #13

If you don't say all religion is shit Leontius Jul 2012 #14

Yeah, that's exactly it. n/t trotsky Jul 2012 #17

It's plenty obvious. n/t trotsky Jul 2012 #16

Something is plenty obvious. rug Jul 2012 #23

I beg to differ - mr blur Jul 2012 #30

There is a difference between recognizing the existence or a religious minority's holiday... Ian David Jul 2012 #26

That's precisely the point. rug Jul 2012 #27

These kinds of "recognition" resolutions are routine and pretty meaningless, imo. OTOH, cbayer Jul 2012 #39

You're right, and that's the difference here. COLGATE4 Jul 2012 #42