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longship

(40,416 posts)
7. I followed this.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 08:41 PM
Jul 2012

IMHO, DJ Grothe handled this very badly. If he had paid attention to previous rumblings in the skeptical blogosphere, he should have realized that this could be important.

Instead, he went into denial, and equivocation. If woman attendance at TAM this year is markedly down this year I put the responsibility on DJ, whose callous disregard had to be the most insulting and misogynistic attitude.

Grothe has always been a controversial figure in our movement. I like him but have a real problem with his naive and overt libertarianism. Not to raise politics into this... But I am going to nevertheless do that very thing.

Grothe failed here, big time. He should resign as JREF president if he is unable to address a problem which could be very easily resolved.

There are many of us in the skeptic community who are disgusted of the way this was mishandled.

I think Grothe put his politics ahead of the issue. I have lost all respect for him.

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Uh, well, some MEN have a sexual harassment problem skepticscott Jul 2012 #1
I have been a member of male dominated associations for most of my life. cbayer Jul 2012 #2
What are your thoughts on it?? Angry Dragon Jul 2012 #3
Compared to what happens in religious organizations, this is tame! backscatter712 Jul 2012 #4
Don't you think that might be apples and oranges? cbayer Jul 2012 #5
rug has posted an article about this probably 5 times Goblinmonger Jul 2012 #6
Check the date and the publication. It's now mainstream. rug Jul 2012 #8
Because this is the atheism bashing group? pokerfan Jul 2012 #9
It is? cbayer Jul 2012 #10
No cordelia Jul 2012 #17
Actually that's fine, but then complaints about discussing belief goofiness are moot. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #23
I followed this. longship Jul 2012 #7
I agree with you that this could and should be handled relatively easily. cbayer Jul 2012 #11
"The Safe TAM Brigade" longship Jul 2012 #12
Even just starting a women's forum where they could discuss this, cbayer Jul 2012 #13
No. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #14
The phrase "glass house" sprung into my mind for some reason. 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2012 #15
No. Some people do, some of them are atheists. You'll have to try harder than this, rug. mr blur Jul 2012 #16
He can't try any harder. trotsky Jul 2012 #18
While calling other posters trolls. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #19
Lol. rug Jul 2012 #27
Yes, this could not possibly be a real problem. rug Jul 2012 #26
I'l write a terse email to the Post telling them to dig deeper. rug Jul 2012 #25
Meetings of male -dominated groups often have a sexual harassment problem LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #20
Absolutely correct. It is a problem in all kinds of organizations. cbayer Jul 2012 #31
No, humans do. trotsky Jul 2012 #21
Which atheists, Rug? MineralMan Jul 2012 #22
In this case, it's a problem at TAM. rug Jul 2012 #24
Read the first comment there. LaurenG Jul 2012 #28
Sorry about your experience, Lauren. rug Jul 2012 #29
Flame bait ... eom Kolesar Jul 2012 #30
Article is short on evidence Bradical79 Jul 2012 #32
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