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31. That's obviously true.

Mon Dec 26, 2011, 07:28 PM

Dec 2011

Let me slice it thinner.

Science and rational inquiry are separate, though often overlapping, things.

Epicurus' conclusion is the result of rational inquiry, not science. It's a perfectly apt response to the idea of god.

Science is by its nature concerned with physics, the matter and energy of things. But its method and proofs do not - and cannot - promote or demote the notion of god. If you try to conflate science and atheism, you're changing the definition and nature of atheism.

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