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dmallind

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24. Had he answered as I described, would you have cavalierly dismissed Christian complaints?

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Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:37 PM

Jul 2012

I already know the real answer of course.

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Praying for rain: Atheist critics show how petty and small-minded they�ve become [View all] rug Jul 2012 OP

Praying for rain works? Control-Z Jul 2012 #1

Why don't you post this over in A/A so it can be discussed there? Goblinmonger Jul 2012 #2

Why don't you respond to it here? rug Jul 2012 #5

Do you think prayers for rain work? Goblinmonger Jul 2012 #9

You realize, of course, that is not the point of the article. rug Jul 2012 #12

It is the point that she thought was petty. Goblinmonger Jul 2012 #13

Correct. And "the writer's view" has a lot of substance. rug Jul 2012 #15

She probably would have thought Goblinmonger Jul 2012 #16

You should look her up. rug Jul 2012 #17

It's about people using and exaggerating to be assholes. AlbertCat Jul 2012 #100

This Country Is Stupid MooseTrax Jul 2012 #3

Were you born with "original sin", rug? Kolesar Jul 2012 #4

Were you born in the morning or the evening? rug Jul 2012 #7

I presumed you were a "Christian" ... Kolesar Jul 2012 #8

I presume you are liberal and progressive. rug Jul 2012 #10

LOL! kwassa Jul 2012 #68

I knew before I got to the link, that this was the case, but here it is: freshwest Jul 2012 #6

And some Indians believed their Holy Shirts were bulletproof... onager Jul 2012 #36

You might want to go and ask the native Americans about that. Attend a pow wow. Report back. freshwest Jul 2012 #37

Rain prayers are especially potent among desert dwellers; AlbertCat Jul 2012 #101

It doesn't matter if it rains or not. It's their culture. Are they allowed to have one? freshwest Jul 2012 #102

Are they allowed to have one? AlbertCat Jul 2012 #120

This is so so important, because misuse of power impels the victims to wasted lives and suicide. dimbear Jul 2012 #11

Why are they obsessed with something they don't believe in. Isn't that some kind of demosincebirth Jul 2012 #14

Bullshit rhetorical tactic Silent3 Jul 2012 #18

You may not like it, but it's a serious queston. demosincebirth Jul 2012 #20

You'd have to have a serious meaning for the word "obsession"... Silent3 Jul 2012 #42

You can't escape it...that's what it is. The truth sometimes hurts. . Your group (atheists) are demosincebirth Jul 2012 #51

Appears you are simply projecting your insecurities. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #70

Is that all you can toss at me? demosincebirth Jul 2012 #78

An underhanded throw is all that's required. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #79

I know others who throw underhanded. too. Gosh, you are so eeeasy. demosincebirth Jul 2012 #96

I only use as much effort as is required, and dismissing you takes very little. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #97

What can't I escape? Your ridiculous use of the word "obsessed"? Silent3 Jul 2012 #80

We're not obsessed, US society is obsessed. We'd be fools to ignore the cultural impact riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #99

By your "logic", creationists skepticscott Jul 2012 #19

It's not logic, it's a very simple question. The way you answered my post may be part of demosincebirth Jul 2012 #21

It was your flawed "logic" skepticscott Jul 2012 #39

Ah, I'm getting to you now... very thin skinned too. Better work on that, along with with your demosincebirth Jul 2012 #56

When you're down to skepticscott Jul 2012 #60

The substantive point is the word obsession, if you haven't noticed it was the subject of my demosincebirth Jul 2012 #98

Your obsession skepticscott Jul 2012 #109

Jeez, I just asked a question you and your ilk didn't care to answer. It does have an answer but demosincebirth Jul 2012 #117

Your completely insincere and dishonest question has a simple answer. Bradical79 Jul 2012 #122

Responding to something you are surrounded by is not obsession. Bradical79 Jul 2012 #121

Being concerned - sorry "obsessed" - about the establishment clause is a bad thing? dmallind Jul 2012 #22

He was asked by a reporter from a christian news organization specifically about prayer. cbayer Jul 2012 #23

Had he answered as I described, would you have cavalierly dismissed Christian complaints? dmallind Jul 2012 #24

But that's not what he was asked, so it's merely a hypothetical. cbayer Jul 2012 #25

By reading threads on this forum I will whole heartedly use, and will continue to use, demosincebirth Jul 2012 #28

This is an interesting question that I would also be interested in understanding. cbayer Jul 2012 #52

I see your point, but not collecting stamps is impossible to turn into an life changing obsession of demosincebirth Jul 2012 #57

I think I am agreeing with your point. cbayer Jul 2012 #58

But if stamp collectors were everywhere, proclaiming how wonderful stamp collecting was... trotsky Jul 2012 #63

Obsessed? I don't think many atheists are obsessed. MineralMan Jul 2012 #61

A highly personal attack on Flynn by Ms. Miller ... some fallacious barbs included .... Trajan Jul 2012 #26

He can pray all he wants mzteris Jul 2012 #27

Should he answer the question at a press conference? rug Jul 2012 #29

In a manner as is appropriate to his station. mzteris Jul 2012 #72

Actually, it's his appointed station. rug Jul 2012 #94

respectfully declined. n/t mzteris Jul 2012 #103

He's the Secretary of Agriculture. Now, what would be his own time? Maybe taking a crap at his demosincebirth Jul 2012 #30

if he can't make the distinction, mzteris Jul 2012 #73

Amen to that. I'm fed up with politicians feeding the masses bullshit to be popular. BlueJazz Jul 2012 #31

This too? rug Jul 2012 #32

That also. I have no problem with those who are sincere in their beliefs.... BlueJazz Jul 2012 #43

isn't that all it is, really. mzteris Jul 2012 #74

Religious speech is still speech nonetheless and is protected as such. Until Congress is forbidden humblebum Jul 2012 #33

Founder James Madison was no fan of chaplains... onager Jul 2012 #35

You'll also notice that Madison was only one of many, and that tolerance was key. The humblebum Jul 2012 #40

Translation: skepticscott Jul 2012 #47

Don't let the facts confuse you. nt humblebum Jul 2012 #50

You're joking right? Goblinmonger Jul 2012 #64

I'll stand by my words and yes I am very well aware of what went on at the Constitutional Convention humblebum Jul 2012 #66

I've read plenty on Madison. Goblinmonger Jul 2012 #67

Obviously, none of them were the type of federalism we have today. That is Madison's point. humblebum Jul 2012 #69

oh gawd. you haven't been reading mzteris Jul 2012 #76

Nope. humblebum Jul 2012 #82

I've probably forgotten more about the subject mzteris Jul 2012 #84

Until you put up something of substance, it appears that humblebum Jul 2012 #85

He wasn't the only "anti-religious one" either mzteris Jul 2012 #86

Never did I say that he was the only anti-religious one and by your words here, humblebum Jul 2012 #87

I did start out by saying, mzteris Jul 2012 #89

Of course they were politicians and that is what politicians do, but their humblebum Jul 2012 #91

There is nothing "mixed' about mzteris Jul 2012 #104

Well he wasn't exactly condemning religion when he said: humblebum Jul 2012 #108

That in no way suggests that HE mzteris Jul 2012 #112

I have never said that he was religious and yes he humblebum Jul 2012 #115

Why do you even listen to Sean Hannity? I thought he left the scene with Palin, but Madison humblebum Jul 2012 #41

they were politicians who knew mzteris Jul 2012 #75

You act as if James Madison was the only Founding Father. Pretty shallow I'd say. And humblebum Jul 2012 #81

you really have been reading Barton, haven't you? mzteris Jul 2012 #83

If you enjoy his take on American history... onager Jul 2012 #88

His fabrication of American history, mzteris Jul 2012 #90

Still, much talk but no substance. IOW, those "books" are humblebum Jul 2012 #92

Garbage deserves to be burned. mzteris Jul 2012 #93

Actually, it shows where your true allegiance and source of info comes [from]. humblebum Jul 2012 #95

Joseph Ellis?? mzteris Jul 2012 #105

So, then you do think he is a trusted resource? Somehow that humblebum Jul 2012 #106

don't get this, do you? mzteris Jul 2012 #111

Then why didn't you use the sarcasm icon? nt humblebum Jul 2012 #113

I thought it unnecessary. mzteris Jul 2012 #114

Kinda like using sources to back up your claims, huh? humblebum Jul 2012 #116

Not buying any of it. "Rain dance fallacy" longship Jul 2012 #34

Must try harder. You're slipping. nt mr blur Jul 2012 #38

It takes little effort. rug Jul 2012 #53

What a meany face!!!! Evoman Jul 2012 #44

Yes, we do. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #45

Sweet! What word do you use to do that? Evoman Jul 2012 #46

I had that smiley ready for use on my DU2 profile. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #48

I agree. You do engage in that act liberally. nt humblebum Jul 2012 #59

. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #62

*GASP* That's a sin. Goblinmonger Jul 2012 #65

No, she said they're petty and small-minded. rug Jul 2012 #54

Here we go.... Evoman Jul 2012 #126

Speaking of petty and small . . . . rug Jul 2012 #128

No need to get all snarky. Evoman Jul 2012 #129

That looks like an enjoyment you'd prefer alone. rug Jul 2012 #130

Ha! You just don't know me at all! Evoman Aug 2012 #131

Secretary of Agriculture Claude Duplantis revealed today that he sacrifices a chicken every day.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #49

Flynn could have suggested rurallib Jul 2012 #55

Isn't that just sort of semantics Dorian Gray Jul 2012 #71

Uh, in this case, yeah it does skepticscott Jul 2012 #127

It read like hyperbole Dorian Gray Aug 2012 #132

Weakness must attack dissenting difference. nt patrice Jul 2012 #77

So one atheist is a rude twit intaglio Jul 2012 #107

Facts cbayer Jul 2012 #110

Facts are irrelevant. demosincebirth Jul 2012 #118

Often ignored, but not irrelevant. cbayer Jul 2012 #119

Petty and Small Minded Journalist Writes Insulting and Idiotic Article Bradical79 Jul 2012 #123

Yeah, she's a hack. rug Jul 2012 #124

"Small Minded Journalist Writes Insulting and Idiotic Article" about humblebum Jul 2012 #125