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ButterflyBlood

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14. Now imagine what would happen if those Catholics put their money where their mouth is

Mon Aug 6, 2012, 01:52 PM

Aug 2012

And got out of the church. Not only would the message finally be sent in a way that the heirarchy couldn't ignore, they'd have a lot less money to fund their bigotry as well.

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Surging Catholic Support for Gay Marriage, Gay Adoption (US) [View all] cbayer Aug 2012 OP

Yes well done dmallind Aug 2012 #1

You are correct, but the trend is a good sign. cbayer Aug 2012 #2

Job gains are also a good trend. Celebrating them here gets short shrift however. dmallind Aug 2012 #5

Sorry for what you went through. cbayer Aug 2012 #7

Interesting. Of course, this won't change any minds pnwmom Aug 2012 #3

But good information is harder to distort and use against others. cbayer Aug 2012 #4

Is pointing out that a bare majority accepting basic human equality is still poor now "bashing"? dmallind Aug 2012 #6

If it weren't for the increase in Catholic support, we wouldn't be close to approving pnwmom Aug 2012 #8

Voters didn't decide in Mass. trotsky Aug 2012 #10

And the state supreme court includes Catholics. n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #11

Well that leads to a bunch of questions. trotsky Aug 2012 #20

A Catholic justice on that Supreme Court pnwmom Aug 2012 #25

Weird. Plantaganet Aug 2012 #31

I didn't say that. But Catholics have been more open to gay marriage pnwmom Aug 2012 #48

OMG CATHOLICS ARE EVOLVING??? Skittles Aug 2012 #101

So you can't answer any of the questions. trotsky Aug 2012 #37

And if it weren't for vehement Catholic opposition to it skepticscott Aug 2012 #34

We are going to be joining a gay affirming Catholic Church mmonk Aug 2012 #66

Well, yes they do deserve to be lumped together skepticscott Aug 2012 #67

The hierarchy is largely (but not completely) against gay marriage, pnwmom Aug 2012 #69

The laity doesn't make policy skepticscott Aug 2012 #70

The laity determines which of the doctrine they choose to believe. For example, pnwmom Aug 2012 #71

And yet what influences skepticscott Aug 2012 #72

The hierarchy of the Catholic Church has had very little influence pnwmom Aug 2012 #73

Hogwash skepticscott Aug 2012 #87

Chew on this a while. The largest Gay Catholic parish in the nation. demosincebirth Aug 2012 #76

Case in point. Plantaganet Aug 2012 #94

I love people like you that can read an authentic article and completely and totally turn it demosincebirth Aug 2012 #96

I think you have a very intelligent thirteen-year-old! n/t Plantaganet Aug 2012 #99

She is, but she still has the intelligence of a thirteen year old and has a lot of growing up demosincebirth Aug 2012 #106

BTW there's no need to lash out at people with dyslexia. Kinda tacky, no? Plantaganet Aug 2012 #107

Lashing out? I never gave it a thought. demosincebirth Aug 2012 #108

That's certainly clear. n/t Plantaganet Aug 2012 #109

Look up the word "sarcasm." demosincebirth Aug 2012 #110

You're not giving yourself enough credit. I think you make an exceptional fool. Plantaganet Aug 2012 #111

You are an American, so did you support GW Bush's policies including invasion mmonk Aug 2012 #75

The intellectual bankruptcy skepticscott Aug 2012 #83

No, just pointing out your similarity to the Bishops. mmonk Aug 2012 #91

Obviously not every Catholic skepticscott Aug 2012 #95

We shall see I guess. mmonk Aug 2012 #98

Still no answer.. skepticscott Aug 2012 #65

Still no answer skepticscott Aug 2012 #68

And STILL no answer skepticscott Aug 2012 #74

When your church as an institution is no longer opposing gay rights... trotsky Aug 2012 #9

That doesn't change the fact that more Catholics support gay marriage pnwmom Aug 2012 #12

But what are they doing with the money that those pro-gay marriage Catholics are donating? ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #13

Ever hear of Catholic Community Services? pnwmom Aug 2012 #16

You can donate to other organizations that deal with that that don't also fund anti-gay propaganda ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #21

So now you're an anti-Catholic evangelist. Bully for you. pnwmom Aug 2012 #23

You're projecting again. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #30

No, I'm using my reading comprehension skills. n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #45

I'm curious what you mean ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #46

You got a second Christian baptism because of your feelings against pnwmom Aug 2012 #47

Actually I *probably* would've got baptized again even if my parents had me baptized Lutheran ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #50

After I pointed out that the church spends a lot more money on Catholic Community pnwmom Aug 2012 #51

Just curious - since you've decided not to answer any of the difficult questions posed to you... trotsky Aug 2012 #53

To answer your first question, yes, but not from you. n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #56

That sounds a little like bigotry. Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #57

I'm sorry you don't think I should be allowed to speak my opinion. trotsky Aug 2012 #60

It's a relevant topic in this thread ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #62

How does that change from within work in your church? trotsky Aug 2012 #38

Erm what? I'm not an evangelist. ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #41

And that's fantastic. trotsky Aug 2012 #19

And the subthread proves your point. cbayer Aug 2012 #39

Could you please specifically point to key words, phrases, or sentences... trotsky Aug 2012 #40

How about this very poster skepticscott Aug 2012 #43

An excellent point. trotsky Aug 2012 #52

Since the subthread skepticscott Aug 2012 #42

Now imagine what would happen if those Catholics put their money where their mouth is ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #14

They can, and many are, giving their money to specific Catholic organizations and causes. cbayer Aug 2012 #15

But it would be the most effective ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #22

But your experience is yours and yours alone. cbayer Aug 2012 #24

Leave a Church many of us have known since birth ? I don't think so. The majoitry of catholics demosincebirth Aug 2012 #77

Known, or indoctrinated into? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #92

I love people who think they can always tell others what they should or shouldn't do demosincebirth Aug 2012 #97

I love people who make shit up out of thin air to make themselves feel better. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #100

and I will continue. demosincebirth Aug 2012 #105

It's a known fact that Catholics in the US, historically, tend to be more tolerant than other Xians. 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #17

Of course I noticed. Those numbers have always been the highest. cbayer Aug 2012 #18

Indeed they have. That means something, don't you think? 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #26

What are you getting at here? What do you think it means? cbayer Aug 2012 #27

That is left as an exercise for the reader. Have a nice day. 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #28

Wow. Sometimes things just get bizarre around here. cbayer Aug 2012 #29

Do you think the higher Catholic rate could be linked to level of education? MissMarple Aug 2012 #32

This is what the author speculates: cbayer Aug 2012 #33

Thanks, The link won't work for me. MissMarple Aug 2012 #35

That's too bad. It's got lots more information and polling data. cbayer Aug 2012 #36

Atheist rock! Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #44

i would like to meet the 6% of atheists that are against and say scheming daemons Aug 2012 #103

I'm concerned that folks whose religious views are 'nothing in particular' have some dimbear Aug 2012 #49

Why would you be concerned about that. cbayer Aug 2012 #55

Say we were out wine tasting. They would be the ones asking for a dimbear Aug 2012 #58

Hey, what do you have against boxed wine? cbayer Aug 2012 #59

One has to consider the hierarchy of the Catholic Church... rexcat Aug 2012 #54

I mentioned this in another thread Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2012 #61

I find religion in general... rexcat Aug 2012 #63

Welcome to the Religion Group Fortinbras Armstrong! cbayer Aug 2012 #64

This does not change the fact that the midevil patriarchy Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #78

No, it doesn't, but it's still very good news, imo. cbayer Aug 2012 #80

It also does not change the fact that Karl Ratzinger has appointed a subversive: Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #86

No, it doesn't, but it's still very good news, imo. cbayer Aug 2012 #90

The divorced and civilly remarried HockeyMom Aug 2012 #79

I think there is a lot of truth in that. cbayer Aug 2012 #81

The RCC does not consider divorce a sin. rug Aug 2012 #82

Yes, it is the remarriage HockeyMom Aug 2012 #84

They come into play only when a nonCatholic wishes to marry a Catholic in the Catholic Church. rug Aug 2012 #85

No, the annulment process skepticscott Aug 2012 #88

And so speaks the voice of biased ignorance. rug Aug 2012 #89

My FIL converted to a catholic when he remarried... cleanhippie Aug 2012 #93

A widow or widower does not need to have a prior marriage annulled. dflprincess Aug 2012 #102

And canon law does not require a nonCatholic to convert to marry a Catholic. rug Aug 2012 #104