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In reply to the discussion: It is OK to try and be like Jesus [View all]onager
(9,356 posts)38. Why would I want to be a megalomaniacal religious fanatic?
Jesus, it has been said, had great power. - Only by people who never met him, years after he died. Not to mention all the editing later.
He could have done anything he wanted. - Apparently he just wanted to hang out with his bros, shooting off his mouth about everything under the sun. (Thanks, Blackadder!) And doing the occasional magic trick.
Oh, and he caused the Zombie Apocalypse of Jerusalem, according to Matthew. Which even I have to admit is kind of neat, and I'd love to see the movie based on it.
He could have been King... - Well, that was part of his problem. Judea already HAD a king, Herod Antipas. And like most kings, he didn't much care for competition. Especially not from scroll-thumping rubes with a habit of disturbing the peace.
At that time, there were entire regiments of ranting messiahs, crazed prophets and nutbar religious demagogues littering the Judean landscape.
One of them did lead a no-shit, full-blown rebellion against the state, which was crushed immediately by Pontius Pilate. But his name wasn't Jesus. He came along later, and he's only called "the Samaritan Messiah" by the Xians' favorite historian, Flavius Josephus.
But what he did was help the poor and freely healed the sick.
1. Well, not exactly. I recall an episode where Jesus orders some expensive oil to be wasted on washing his feet. Even one of his apostles complains that he should have sold the oil and given the money to the poor.
And those apostles are usually depicted as...um...well, not exactly the brightest torches in the Temple.
"The poor you will have with you always..." But it's REALLY all about ME ME ME! Ha! That's straight from the Gospel According To Ronald Reagan.
2. Freely healed the sick? How about the Greek woman who begs him to heal her daughter, and Jesus compares her to a "dog?" That story is told TWICE (Matthew & Mark), so it must be Really Important.
He eventually condescends to heal the girl. But as even Xian Apologeticist Kyle Butt M.A. (no, I didn't make that up - just Google him) is forced to admit:
"Even many religious writers and speakers view Jesus statements to the woman as unkind, intolerant, racially slurred, and offensive."
Yay Lib'rul Jesus!
Oh, and welcome to DU! See, I'm one of the NICE atheists!
(Edited for spelling.)
He could have done anything he wanted. - Apparently he just wanted to hang out with his bros, shooting off his mouth about everything under the sun. (Thanks, Blackadder!) And doing the occasional magic trick.
Oh, and he caused the Zombie Apocalypse of Jerusalem, according to Matthew. Which even I have to admit is kind of neat, and I'd love to see the movie based on it.
He could have been King... - Well, that was part of his problem. Judea already HAD a king, Herod Antipas. And like most kings, he didn't much care for competition. Especially not from scroll-thumping rubes with a habit of disturbing the peace.
At that time, there were entire regiments of ranting messiahs, crazed prophets and nutbar religious demagogues littering the Judean landscape.
One of them did lead a no-shit, full-blown rebellion against the state, which was crushed immediately by Pontius Pilate. But his name wasn't Jesus. He came along later, and he's only called "the Samaritan Messiah" by the Xians' favorite historian, Flavius Josephus.
But what he did was help the poor and freely healed the sick.
1. Well, not exactly. I recall an episode where Jesus orders some expensive oil to be wasted on washing his feet. Even one of his apostles complains that he should have sold the oil and given the money to the poor.
And those apostles are usually depicted as...um...well, not exactly the brightest torches in the Temple.
"The poor you will have with you always..." But it's REALLY all about ME ME ME! Ha! That's straight from the Gospel According To Ronald Reagan.
2. Freely healed the sick? How about the Greek woman who begs him to heal her daughter, and Jesus compares her to a "dog?" That story is told TWICE (Matthew & Mark), so it must be Really Important.
He eventually condescends to heal the girl. But as even Xian Apologeticist Kyle Butt M.A. (no, I didn't make that up - just Google him) is forced to admit:
"Even many religious writers and speakers view Jesus statements to the woman as unkind, intolerant, racially slurred, and offensive."
Yay Lib'rul Jesus!
Oh, and welcome to DU! See, I'm one of the NICE atheists!
(Edited for spelling.)
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He was so dedicated to his life that he was willing to be crucified for what he believed.
Lint Head
Aug 2012
#2
You must be right on this because everyone you know is one dimensional aren't they?
Leontius
Aug 2012
#29
A complex being is one who is flawed, otherwise they are one-dimensional, is Jesus flawed? n/t
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2012
#43
What life experience, we are talking about characters in books here...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2012
#66
Meh! I was merely ridiculing people who claim absolute knowledge from the Bible. nt
longship
Aug 2012
#74
How are they Jesus' teachings when they predate the time in which he allegedly lived?
trotsky
Aug 2012
#31
Wow, thank you master Christian, for being that magnanimous, I feel so privileged!
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2012
#45
So you don't have to be Christian to be a decent person, just adopt some of Jesus' teachings?
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2012
#65
Conservatives like to ignore why government started doing social welfare
Fortinbras Armstrong
Aug 2012
#8
"I am sure that Jesus would approve of government money being used to help the poor."
trotsky
Aug 2012
#10
"If you have a problem with that, well, 2bad." Is that what jesus taught, too?
cleanhippie
Aug 2012
#59
Yes, it does. I suggest liberal use of the ignore feature for a much more positive experience.
cbayer
Aug 2012
#56
Translation: Stick your fingers in your ears and yell "la la la la la la I can't hear you"
cleanhippie
Aug 2012
#62
Indeed, you posts most certainly had a "lack of understanding and backawardness"
cleanhippie
Aug 2012
#61
Well, this post is insulting and bigoted against every non-Christian on the planet, congrats! n/t
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2012
#36
Oh, I do apologize, please carry on conversing about your own superiority. n/t
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2012
#42
Also, you are asking for my opinion on a mythological/legendary character, I don't understand...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2012
#53
Also, that's not what you said in that post, the implication was that non-Christians don't...
Humanist_Activist
Aug 2012
#49
Jesus is a liberator. That's why his state-church killed him. Be prepared to be
patrice
Aug 2012
#51