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Jim__

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Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:26 AM Aug 2012

“You don’t have to believe in God to pray.” [View all]

An excerpt from a short article, Religion, Theism, and Atheism:

It is a truth universally acknowledged that we learn more from persons we disagree with than those we agree with. That sentiment was confirmed for me while reading three recent intelligent books by the “New, New Atheists.” Tough-minded critics of religion, they “take pleasure in laying bare the idiocy of believers in remorseless detail.”

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Young people regarding themselves as “spiritual,” rather than “religious,” is the most obvious indication of organized religion’s failure to meet the needs of thoughtful seekers of all ages. They may regard religion’s definition of itself as inadequate or nonsensical, and find it difficult not only to comprehend, but also to apprehend “the other.”

Or, disillusioned with God’s indifference to holocausts, world wars, and nuclear armaments, they toss out the whole construct or embrace atheism.

A positive alternative, according to several theologians, is to dispense with traditional attributes of God as person, and to attend to attributes — love, creativity, justice — that we regard as essential to Being.

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Really? trotsky Aug 2012 #1
"Hasa Diga Eebowai" mr blur Aug 2012 #2
How could anyone guess that Alain de Botton would be mentioned? Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #3
Oh, it's just so nice to be patted on the head Warpy Aug 2012 #4
"This ... patronizing article that makes us, the mildest and least violent of people, want to kill." Jim__ Aug 2012 #13
And you would do well Warpy Aug 2012 #26
Responding to what is explicitly stated in your post is not an attempt to psychoanalyze anyone. Jim__ Aug 2012 #28
At first I want to dismiss this edhopper Aug 2012 #5
And if that's all it were, I wouldn't have a problem either. trotsky Aug 2012 #6
No Earth Day is exactly the right example edhopper Aug 2012 #7
We should be doing things like protecting the environment, caring for others, etc. trotsky Aug 2012 #8
Yes that is it. edhopper Aug 2012 #11
People are social by nature. Jim__ Aug 2012 #14
Beware. de Botton is not a true scotsman and will be dismissed out of hand here. cbayer Aug 2012 #9
*sigh* cleanhippie Aug 2012 #10
Why do you keep trying to pull that stunt? trotsky Aug 2012 #12
No dmallind Aug 2012 #17
What is a "faitheist"? rug Aug 2012 #27
What do you think it is? n/t trotsky Aug 2012 #33
I think it's a lame slam on any atheist you scorn. rug Aug 2012 #34
Then you would be wrong. trotsky Aug 2012 #38
This? rug Aug 2012 #39
Yeah, that! trotsky Aug 2012 #40
No, you do admit they are atheists but you also treat them as "special" atheists. rug Aug 2012 #41
"Special?" Ha. trotsky Aug 2012 #42
No you don't "just disagree". You scorn them. rug Aug 2012 #43
Oh my goodness. trotsky Aug 2012 #44
It tkes much more than an anonymous internet poster named trotsky to hurt my feelings. rug Aug 2012 #45
Sounds like you scorn him! trotsky Aug 2012 #46
I thought we were done. rug Aug 2012 #47
I dunno, rug - you're the one who decided to harp on me for allegedly "scorning" someone. trotsky Aug 2012 #48
You're the one who decided to scorn fellow atheists. rug Aug 2012 #49
Sadly uniformed, or just plain sad? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #37
True; but the line about prayer comes from Unamuno. Jim__ Aug 2012 #15
Have not heard of him previously, but his philosopy appears quite complicated. cbayer Aug 2012 #19
no de Botton is an atheist who likes pompous rituals and the trappings of woo Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #16
Well, there you go! cbayer Aug 2012 #18
Yep, there you go. trotsky Aug 2012 #21
clearly you are tickling yourself. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #22
Just tickling myself, Warren. Don't take it too seriously. cbayer Aug 2012 #23
Thanks for raising the tone, cbayer. trotsky Aug 2012 #24
Reality is deeper than religion--or any one religion. Thats my opinion Aug 2012 #20
I agree that reality is deeper than religion. Jim__ Aug 2012 #25
mysteries or Mystery Thats my opinion Aug 2012 #30
When you blow on the dice, when you cross your fingers and hope, when you wish on a star, dimbear Aug 2012 #29
How right you are nt Thats my opinion Aug 2012 #32
Empty rituals. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #35
Thoughtful seekers. Iggo Aug 2012 #31
That would be called wishing.... Marrah_G Aug 2012 #36
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