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22. If there weren't so many

Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:50 PM

Aug 2012

childish young-earth creationists trying to impose their mythology on everyone else by claiming it as literal truth, atheists and other sensible people would never have to deal with Genesis on those terms. It may come as a surprise to Mr. McDonald, but pretty much all atheists have a good grasp of what those stories are really about, and we'd be delighted to treat them in no other way, if the fundies weren't so eager to play whack-a-mole with their silliness in public school science classrooms. Does he think serious scientists have nothing better to do with their time than refute idiocy like "The Second Law of Thermodynamics means evolution is impossible!! Hahahaha!!" for the ten thousandth time? When they come up with serious notions about how life got to be the way it is, other than "Gawddidit...says so in the Buybul!", then we'll take them seriously.

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St. Augustine Asks the Hard Questions Atheists Don�t Ask [View all] rug Aug 2012 OP

st. augustine, that well known scientist with no catholic bias lol nt msongs Aug 2012 #1

Was Genesis written by scientists? rug Aug 2012 #2

To the romanist who wrote this: Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #3

A romanist? rug Aug 2012 #4

This author has made direct attack on non-believers. Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #5

Actually, it's an attack on the atheist combox troll and meme-maker and not non-believers. rug Aug 2012 #6

Of course, he (nor you) really do specify what separates... eqfan592 Aug 2012 #16

Well, as a taxonomic start, I surmise the latter do not frequent reddit, among other places. rug Aug 2012 #18

Let me help you on that one - tolerance, compassion and humility separate us. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #88

May I ask you something? trotsky Aug 2012 #107

Why are you asking me this? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #108

Leaving the hatred of the Phelps group aside... trotsky Aug 2012 #109

Oh poor Trotsky. Won't she talk to you? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #110

No, she didn't skepticscott Aug 2012 #115

She called the legislators in Indiana who voted for the bill "a bunch of dumbasses" Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #124

Oh you've met them all? skepticscott Aug 2012 #126

Do you just feign stupidity in order to conduct your smear campaigns? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #127

Irrelevant non-answer, made even sillier by your puffery skepticscott Aug 2012 #128

I find it humorous being shunned! No worries here! trotsky Aug 2012 #123

Maybe you'd care to substantiate your personal attacks Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #125

Tell you what: you identify the personal attack first. trotsky Aug 2012 #132

Oh, you have them bookmarked. Aren't you precious. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #133

Absolutely. trotsky Aug 2012 #134

All you have pointed out is your own intolerance, vindictiveness and pettiness. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #135

Maybe not so much "hard" as "dumb." immoderate Aug 2012 #7

Are you saying Augustine was "dumb"? rug Aug 2012 #9

Not at all. He was very good at forming dumb questions. immoderate Aug 2012 #12

That's much better. rug Aug 2012 #15

Actually, I think the questions were being called dumb. eqfan592 Aug 2012 #13

"an amazingly insulting manner" rug Aug 2012 #17

He's also a bigoted homophobe. trotsky Aug 2012 #40

Genesis, the garden of eden, the whole story...... PDJane Aug 2012 #8

That sounds familiar. rug Aug 2012 #10

Religion was religion was primitive man's law. Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #11

Genesis is a symbolic play on human consciousness and self awareness. immoderate Aug 2012 #14

"we can destroy all life" - eh? We can destroy human civilization for sure. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #35

If you were a man and realized that God was a male bipod who created man in his image (except for AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #77

Funny edhopper Aug 2012 #19

Augustine is low hanging fruit muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #20

Do you mean Dust Man and Living One? rug Aug 2012 #21

If there weren't so many skepticscott Aug 2012 #22

. eqfan592 Aug 2012 #24

+1,000 Scuba Aug 2012 #60

I missed this post in my first review of the thread. trotsky Aug 2012 #72

Atheists ask these hard questions every day ... DreamGypsy Aug 2012 #23

Excellent post and great response. trotsky Aug 2012 #41

An updated answer to one of the questions.... DreamGypsy Feb 2013 #136

Genesis was apparently written around 600 BCE, or at least then received its last major edits. dimbear Aug 2012 #25

so until we come around to accepting absurd nonsense as a given we can't get to these Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #26

You don't have to read the bible to be an atheist Xipe Totec Aug 2012 #27

St. Augustine was a self-hating neurotic. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #28

I want to know where those other people came from that Cain went to live with Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #29

Why the fuck are you linking to homophobic bloggers, especially that cesspool that is Patheos' Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #30

Another one of those hard questions atheists don't ask. n/t dimbear Aug 2012 #31

It's rather ironic skepticscott Aug 2012 #32

Can't ask what believers believe. It is very rude to do that. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #34

Sorry, I don't respond to bullshit at 3 a.m. rug Aug 2012 #44

What's actually ironic Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2012 #62

"rather than addressing the questions" - what questions? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #63

Yeah, that's what I was wondering as well. eqfan592 Aug 2012 #64

And those are only revelant to someone trying to show the Bible is worth reading muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #66

where did god put the water when he was making land? Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #67

Maybe he crossed his legs muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #69

You might first try to show us skepticscott Aug 2012 #73

And still no answer skepticscott Aug 2012 #129

Oops. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #36

Busted! trotsky Aug 2012 #39

Why don't you, trotsky? rug Aug 2012 #45

I've tried many times to ask you to just clearly state your position. trotsky Aug 2012 #55

I see you have been paying attention. rug Aug 2012 #56

To gay Catholics who want to get married, there isn't. trotsky Aug 2012 #57

I take that question more seriously from a gay Catholic than from you. rug Aug 2012 #58

You must know a lot about cheap Internet baiting tactics. trotsky Aug 2012 #59

I'm a keen observer. rug Aug 2012 #61

Look at the crimes of the church too. Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #75

Why the fuck don't you discuss the topic at hand? rug Aug 2012 #42

fuck yeah! I want to know where god put all that water when he was making land. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #68

QED rug Aug 2012 #83

I'm sure if I trolled Stormfront or another hate website, I can find a post or two... Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #84

I see you equate the Patheos Catholic Channel to Stormfront. rug Aug 2012 #85

Most Catholics are better than their Church, just not the ones on Patheos... Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #87

That's your opinion and doesn't even come close to your bigoted comparison to Stormfront. rug Aug 2012 #89

I compare hatred with hatred, they don't call for homosexuals to be beaten to death... Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #90

Ok, compare "Catholic hatred" to Nazi hatred. rug Aug 2012 #92

If you want me to go there, many Catholics supported the Nazis... Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #94

Lots of people supported Nazis but that's not the question. rug Aug 2012 #95

Both devalue the individuals, their relationships, and oppose equal rights of the same... Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #97

That's a mighty load of bullshit. rug Aug 2012 #100

You are the one who brought up Nazis, I mentioned stormfront, should I have went with the FRC... Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #101

Ah, Stormfront. Silly me. I thought you meant nazis. rug Aug 2012 #103

Don't roll your eyes, the difference is in degree, not type. n/t Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #105

How considerate of you to nuance the degrees of bigotry between nazis and neo-nazis. rug Aug 2012 #106

*yawn* Still at it eh, rug? mr blur Aug 2012 #33

Given the church he wholeheartedly supports... trotsky Aug 2012 #38

You have selective reading. rug Aug 2012 #43

One might ask the same question of atheists. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #91

Yeah, gee...why would the people on this site skepticscott Aug 2012 #93

Have another one on me! Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #96

Guess those are more hard questions skepticscott Aug 2012 #102

LOL trotsky Aug 2012 #37

You should be more precise. rug Aug 2012 #46

Nope. trotsky Aug 2012 #47

Then you must have missed his first sentence. rug Aug 2012 #48

So are you asserting that whenever the author uses the term "atheists" in the article... trotsky Aug 2012 #49

It's very clear who he's talking to. rug Aug 2012 #50

Do you mean "target"? trotsky Aug 2012 #51

No I mean precisely what I said: target audience. rug Aug 2012 #52

What you precisely said was taget audience. trotsky Aug 2012 #53

You failed to mention I also typed "four" rather than "your". rug Aug 2012 #54

I don't think anyone is squirming in this thread muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #65

Oh, do you prefer cartoons? rug Aug 2012 #82

and fucking magnets, how do they work? frylock Aug 2012 #70

Were there magnets in Biblical times? DavidL Aug 2012 #86

I really wish this guy had made his points without the atheist bashing. cbayer Aug 2012 #71

He HAS no point worth making skepticscott Aug 2012 #74

Good observation! DavidL Aug 2012 #79

But of course some here skepticscott Aug 2012 #81

You have a bright future writing for The Onion. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #76

I was wondering if this thread was a joke or something. DavidL Aug 2012 #78

If everyone kept their beliefs or non beliefs to themselves this would be a much more peaceful world The_Casual_Observer Aug 2012 #80

Letter, Bishop Julian of Eclanum to Augustine... onager Aug 2012 #98

Julian was a Pelagian who asserted the doctrine of the limited depravity of human nature. rug Aug 2012 #99

No need for a "more worthy opponent," thanks. onager Aug 2012 #130

It's a poor illustration of a poorer point. rug Aug 2012 #131

Yeah, it's a shame we atheists don't fully appreciate... Silent3 Aug 2012 #104

A large percentage of bible beleavers in the US take the Bible literally cpwm17 Aug 2012 #111

From the data I have seen, your statement is completely inaccurate. cbayer Aug 2012 #112

30% is still "a large percentage" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #113

I don't consider 30% a large percentage, though not insignificant. cbayer Aug 2012 #114

I guess that's a matter of opinion. eqfan592 Aug 2012 #119

True that, but if Romney gets 30% of the vote, I'm not going to call that a cbayer Aug 2012 #120

And it's so best if skepticscott Aug 2012 #121

So what's the difference between skepticscott Aug 2012 #122

It's also a very vocal percentage. eqfan592 Aug 2012 #118

30% is a large percentage cpwm17 Aug 2012 #116

You are correct and I agree that it is not an insignificant number cbayer Aug 2012 #117

This is a very arrogant sneering essay LeftishBrit Feb 2013 #137

It may well be. rug Feb 2013 #138

No, he is not critiquing just those who 'sweep all Christians or all believers into one group' LeftishBrit Feb 2013 #139

No he doesn't.. rug Feb 2013 #140

It's from an arrogant, sneering RWer, who calls abortion 'our ongoing holocaust' muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #141