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demosincebirth

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96. I love people like you that can read an authentic article and completely and totally turn it

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:19 PM

Aug 2012

around and put their own spin on it. My thirteen year old does the some thing.

By the way, in case you're dyslectic the article said "Parish" not Church Two different entities.

I can feel a headache coming on so A-Dios.

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Surging Catholic Support for Gay Marriage, Gay Adoption (US) [View all] cbayer Aug 2012 OP

Yes well done dmallind Aug 2012 #1

You are correct, but the trend is a good sign. cbayer Aug 2012 #2

Job gains are also a good trend. Celebrating them here gets short shrift however. dmallind Aug 2012 #5

Sorry for what you went through. cbayer Aug 2012 #7

Interesting. Of course, this won't change any minds pnwmom Aug 2012 #3

But good information is harder to distort and use against others. cbayer Aug 2012 #4

Is pointing out that a bare majority accepting basic human equality is still poor now "bashing"? dmallind Aug 2012 #6

If it weren't for the increase in Catholic support, we wouldn't be close to approving pnwmom Aug 2012 #8

Voters didn't decide in Mass. trotsky Aug 2012 #10

And the state supreme court includes Catholics. n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #11

Well that leads to a bunch of questions. trotsky Aug 2012 #20

A Catholic justice on that Supreme Court pnwmom Aug 2012 #25

Weird. Plantaganet Aug 2012 #31

I didn't say that. But Catholics have been more open to gay marriage pnwmom Aug 2012 #48

OMG CATHOLICS ARE EVOLVING??? Skittles Aug 2012 #101

So you can't answer any of the questions. trotsky Aug 2012 #37

And if it weren't for vehement Catholic opposition to it skepticscott Aug 2012 #34

We are going to be joining a gay affirming Catholic Church mmonk Aug 2012 #66

Well, yes they do deserve to be lumped together skepticscott Aug 2012 #67

The hierarchy is largely (but not completely) against gay marriage, pnwmom Aug 2012 #69

The laity doesn't make policy skepticscott Aug 2012 #70

The laity determines which of the doctrine they choose to believe. For example, pnwmom Aug 2012 #71

And yet what influences skepticscott Aug 2012 #72

The hierarchy of the Catholic Church has had very little influence pnwmom Aug 2012 #73

Hogwash skepticscott Aug 2012 #87

Chew on this a while. The largest Gay Catholic parish in the nation. demosincebirth Aug 2012 #76

Case in point. Plantaganet Aug 2012 #94

I love people like you that can read an authentic article and completely and totally turn it demosincebirth Aug 2012 #96

I think you have a very intelligent thirteen-year-old! n/t Plantaganet Aug 2012 #99

She is, but she still has the intelligence of a thirteen year old and has a lot of growing up demosincebirth Aug 2012 #106

BTW there's no need to lash out at people with dyslexia. Kinda tacky, no? Plantaganet Aug 2012 #107

Lashing out? I never gave it a thought. demosincebirth Aug 2012 #108

That's certainly clear. n/t Plantaganet Aug 2012 #109

Look up the word "sarcasm." demosincebirth Aug 2012 #110

You're not giving yourself enough credit. I think you make an exceptional fool. Plantaganet Aug 2012 #111

You are an American, so did you support GW Bush's policies including invasion mmonk Aug 2012 #75

The intellectual bankruptcy skepticscott Aug 2012 #83

No, just pointing out your similarity to the Bishops. mmonk Aug 2012 #91

Obviously not every Catholic skepticscott Aug 2012 #95

We shall see I guess. mmonk Aug 2012 #98

Still no answer.. skepticscott Aug 2012 #65

Still no answer skepticscott Aug 2012 #68

And STILL no answer skepticscott Aug 2012 #74

When your church as an institution is no longer opposing gay rights... trotsky Aug 2012 #9

That doesn't change the fact that more Catholics support gay marriage pnwmom Aug 2012 #12

But what are they doing with the money that those pro-gay marriage Catholics are donating? ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #13

Ever hear of Catholic Community Services? pnwmom Aug 2012 #16

You can donate to other organizations that deal with that that don't also fund anti-gay propaganda ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #21

So now you're an anti-Catholic evangelist. Bully for you. pnwmom Aug 2012 #23

You're projecting again. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #30

No, I'm using my reading comprehension skills. n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #45

I'm curious what you mean ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #46

You got a second Christian baptism because of your feelings against pnwmom Aug 2012 #47

Actually I *probably* would've got baptized again even if my parents had me baptized Lutheran ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #50

After I pointed out that the church spends a lot more money on Catholic Community pnwmom Aug 2012 #51

Just curious - since you've decided not to answer any of the difficult questions posed to you... trotsky Aug 2012 #53

To answer your first question, yes, but not from you. n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #56

That sounds a little like bigotry. Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #57

I'm sorry you don't think I should be allowed to speak my opinion. trotsky Aug 2012 #60

It's a relevant topic in this thread ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #62

How does that change from within work in your church? trotsky Aug 2012 #38

Erm what? I'm not an evangelist. ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #41

And that's fantastic. trotsky Aug 2012 #19

And the subthread proves your point. cbayer Aug 2012 #39

Could you please specifically point to key words, phrases, or sentences... trotsky Aug 2012 #40

How about this very poster skepticscott Aug 2012 #43

An excellent point. trotsky Aug 2012 #52

Since the subthread skepticscott Aug 2012 #42

Now imagine what would happen if those Catholics put their money where their mouth is ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #14

They can, and many are, giving their money to specific Catholic organizations and causes. cbayer Aug 2012 #15

But it would be the most effective ButterflyBlood Aug 2012 #22

But your experience is yours and yours alone. cbayer Aug 2012 #24

Leave a Church many of us have known since birth ? I don't think so. The majoitry of catholics demosincebirth Aug 2012 #77

Known, or indoctrinated into? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #92

I love people who think they can always tell others what they should or shouldn't do demosincebirth Aug 2012 #97

I love people who make shit up out of thin air to make themselves feel better. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #100

and I will continue. demosincebirth Aug 2012 #105

It's a known fact that Catholics in the US, historically, tend to be more tolerant than other Xians. 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #17

Of course I noticed. Those numbers have always been the highest. cbayer Aug 2012 #18

Indeed they have. That means something, don't you think? 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #26

What are you getting at here? What do you think it means? cbayer Aug 2012 #27

That is left as an exercise for the reader. Have a nice day. 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #28

Wow. Sometimes things just get bizarre around here. cbayer Aug 2012 #29

Do you think the higher Catholic rate could be linked to level of education? MissMarple Aug 2012 #32

This is what the author speculates: cbayer Aug 2012 #33

Thanks, The link won't work for me. MissMarple Aug 2012 #35

That's too bad. It's got lots more information and polling data. cbayer Aug 2012 #36

Atheist rock! Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #44

i would like to meet the 6% of atheists that are against and say scheming daemons Aug 2012 #103

I'm concerned that folks whose religious views are 'nothing in particular' have some dimbear Aug 2012 #49

Why would you be concerned about that. cbayer Aug 2012 #55

Say we were out wine tasting. They would be the ones asking for a dimbear Aug 2012 #58

Hey, what do you have against boxed wine? cbayer Aug 2012 #59

One has to consider the hierarchy of the Catholic Church... rexcat Aug 2012 #54

I mentioned this in another thread Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2012 #61

I find religion in general... rexcat Aug 2012 #63

Welcome to the Religion Group Fortinbras Armstrong! cbayer Aug 2012 #64

This does not change the fact that the midevil patriarchy Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #78

No, it doesn't, but it's still very good news, imo. cbayer Aug 2012 #80

It also does not change the fact that Karl Ratzinger has appointed a subversive: Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #86

No, it doesn't, but it's still very good news, imo. cbayer Aug 2012 #90

The divorced and civilly remarried HockeyMom Aug 2012 #79

I think there is a lot of truth in that. cbayer Aug 2012 #81

The RCC does not consider divorce a sin. rug Aug 2012 #82

Yes, it is the remarriage HockeyMom Aug 2012 #84

They come into play only when a nonCatholic wishes to marry a Catholic in the Catholic Church. rug Aug 2012 #85

No, the annulment process skepticscott Aug 2012 #88

And so speaks the voice of biased ignorance. rug Aug 2012 #89

My FIL converted to a catholic when he remarried... cleanhippie Aug 2012 #93

A widow or widower does not need to have a prior marriage annulled. dflprincess Aug 2012 #102

And canon law does not require a nonCatholic to convert to marry a Catholic. rug Aug 2012 #104