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woodsprite

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6. Our Presby church has a breakdown of their budget that we vote on
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:35 PM
Aug 2012

at a congregational meeting each year. Anyone who is a member is allowed to question the budget, etc. and vote against proposed actions. Sometimes we hold a meeting mid-cycle if an issue comes up requiring more funds than allocated. Our church is a service-oriented congregation.

We have one pastor (approx 30K salary), but gets housing because we have a manse on the church property. Small amounts go to youth ministry (we have only a handful of young ones), music ministry (some new music purchases and part-time salaries for organist/choir & bell directors). Our big expenditures are church building upkeep, mission and outreach (assisting with the community food pantry, helping people w/ expenses when needed, Meals on Wheels, Emmanuel Dining Room, Sunday Breakfast Mission, Friendship House, among others) Free activities for the community include VBS, Easter fair/egg hunt, and a community lecture series (the next one is on emergency planning). We have, in the past, made a good amount for mission through a Christmas festival/concerts/historical home tours that we put on, which is free to the community, but we sell crafts, baked goods, soups, have free-will donations, silent auctions, etc. to go toward expanding our support in the community areas that need it most. We also have a medical benevolence fund and a small pastor's discretionary fund that helps where it can (it usually goes back into the benevolence fund or to help someone with their bills). Our "White Gifts" giving around xmas goes directly to replenish the community food pantry. We also have had special donations in the past for Presbyterian Disaster Relief.

It's a small church - never more than 200 members for the 20 years I've been there, and we stretch our budget fairly well. I'm proud of how we handle our money and account for it. I've been in other situations that haven't been as transparent or had such strong congregational and community support.

I'm much more comfortable here than at a mega-church!

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I see your funds don't got to DU. rug Aug 2012 #1
I had a star until this week, and I will have one soon again. MineralMan Aug 2012 #3
Your question was answered. Click the link. rug Aug 2012 #12
My star is now renewed. MineralMan Aug 2012 #28
Good timing. rug Aug 2012 #31
Yes. I would have had to wait until next month. MineralMan Aug 2012 #32
I wrote a post in that thread. rug Aug 2012 #33
And mine expired last week. But, a couple of checks MineralMan Aug 2012 #34
I grew up a preacher's kid. cbayer Aug 2012 #2
the OP author was criticized for asking something the minister did not want him to know nt msongs Aug 2012 #4
That's an assumption on your part. cbayer Aug 2012 #8
Assumption? 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #23
No. Hello there 2AFC. cbayer Aug 2012 #26
He was told his question was "impertinent." And you call it "assumption? WTF? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #24
It was a valid question then, and it is always a valid question. MineralMan Aug 2012 #5
Perhaps your question was impertinent. cbayer Aug 2012 #9
How DU spends its donated money is pretty obvious. MineralMan Aug 2012 #11
Why would a church be any different? cbayer Aug 2012 #13
Yes, it was the Illinois Wheaton. MineralMan Aug 2012 #14
Yes. What it is not known for is producing liberal/progressive clergy - cbayer Aug 2012 #16
Not these days, certainly. In the mid 60s, though, MineralMan Aug 2012 #17
"Perhaps it was the way you asked it. " Ahh, I see, it was his TONE! cleanhippie Aug 2012 #25
Yes, quite. trotsky Aug 2012 #64
Our Presby church has a breakdown of their budget that we vote on woodsprite Aug 2012 #6
Thank you. That sounds like an equitable way to do things. MineralMan Aug 2012 #7
I think that's pretty typical of how smaller, mainline churches handle their finances. cbayer Aug 2012 #10
This long article answers all your questions if you happen to be Catholic. dimbear Aug 2012 #15
Thank you. I will read it. MineralMan Aug 2012 #18
Confession has nothing to do with it. rug Aug 2012 #19
Actually, your link was to a thread of yours, not to the source article. MineralMan Aug 2012 #20
Which lead to the article. rug Aug 2012 #21
"I find it difficult to voluntarily donate to organizations which support things I do not." 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #22
That must explain your not having a star. cbayer Aug 2012 #27
That was very unkind of you to say, cbayer. MineralMan Aug 2012 #35
This member snarks at me all the time. cbayer Aug 2012 #36
Ah, the "Johnny hit me first" gambit. MineralMan Aug 2012 #37
I didn't attack him, I was making a point. cbayer Aug 2012 #38
Oh, dear... MineralMan Aug 2012 #39
And I will leave the sanctimony standing. cbayer Aug 2012 #41
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And here's betting that skepticscott Aug 2012 #48
Great post, MM. trotsky Aug 2012 #40
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If you actually HAD a point skepticscott Aug 2012 #43
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At this time I also do not have a star... polmaven Aug 2012 #53
This thread is about how and why people donate to specific groups. cbayer Aug 2012 #57
I have to be honest, I'm not entirely sure of what sort of history could really justify... eqfan592 Aug 2012 #59
Because I respect you and your opinion, I take this seriously. cbayer Aug 2012 #60
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... trotsky Aug 2012 #63
"Perhaps I was wrong" trotsky Aug 2012 #68
Wow. That's a horrible thing to say. Evoman Aug 2012 #65
It really was. trotsky Aug 2012 #67
Some of it pays for baseless speculations about supernatural entites. D23MIURG23 Aug 2012 #29
And god knows, speculation doesn't come cheap. cbayer Aug 2012 #30
Fair notice: I have started a thread in Meta about this thread. MineralMan Aug 2012 #47
I am shocked and disappointed, to say the least. cbayer Aug 2012 #58
Our church publishes a complete yearly accounting of where the money goes Adsos Letter Aug 2012 #50
That's how it should be, I think. MineralMan Aug 2012 #55
I'm the Treasurer of my church Freddie Aug 2012 #51
Thanks. MineralMan Aug 2012 #54
My church publishes these numbers. They get approved by the Pastoral Council. pnwmom Aug 2012 #52
Thank you for the information. MineralMan Aug 2012 #56
My critererian Thats my opinion Aug 2012 #66
I don't know how other churches operate LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #69
Clearly, that's the way it should be. MineralMan Aug 2012 #70
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