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Is this a fight between believers and non believers? People who are firm in their beliefs do not upaloopa Aug 2012 #1
I would also posit that those who are firm in their disbelief cbayer Aug 2012 #3
I meant a believer could also be a non believer. Yes it works both ways. upaloopa Aug 2012 #5
The beginning of religion must have really been a pretty intelligent brewens Aug 2012 #2
There is some interesting work on the evolutionary value of religious beliefs. cbayer Aug 2012 #4
Some religious practices may have been beneficial and some disasters throughout brewens Aug 2012 #6
Nothing can replace religion. MineralMan Aug 2012 #7
Nonbelief is still something. rug Aug 2012 #9
Is it, rug? MineralMan Aug 2012 #12
Yes it is. rug Aug 2012 #18
Ah, OK, rug, whatever you say... MineralMan Aug 2012 #21
Thank you for your permission. rug Aug 2012 #23
No permission is required, from me or anyone else. MineralMan Aug 2012 #25
Oh I see Stryder Aug 2012 #103
Does your nonWinnebago have any meaning without a concept of a Winnebago? rug Aug 2012 #104
Not sure I understand the question but I'll take a stab Stryder Aug 2012 #106
In order to have a nonWinnebago you must know what a Winnebago is. rug Aug 2012 #107
OK I see what you're saying Stryder Aug 2012 #108
It wouldn't exist. rug Aug 2012 #109
So... Stryder Aug 2012 #110
Sure, if somebody asserted it. rug Aug 2012 #111
I'll give you, Stryder Aug 2012 #112
Keep posting! rug Aug 2012 #113
Um, has someone actually said that it should? trotsky Aug 2012 #8
Religion throughout history attempted to explain the unexplainable until science explained it. Lint Head Aug 2012 #10
Your link takes me to Discover Magazine, but I get: Error 404 - Not Found - once there. Jim__ Aug 2012 #11
Weird. It did the same for me. I reposted the link after doing cbayer Aug 2012 #14
Thanks. It works now. Jim__ Aug 2012 #19
A more honest article would be intaglio Aug 2012 #13
I haven't seen any claims that religion replaces science, but have seen cbayer Aug 2012 #15
Yes, there are things that can't be explained. MineralMan Aug 2012 #16
What happens when the "unexplainable" is explained intaglio Aug 2012 #17
How does mathematics, neurology, population genetics and behavioral science explain morality? rug Aug 2012 #20
Morality is a behavioral issue, really. MineralMan Aug 2012 #24
If it's simply behavioral, and the result of . . . whatever, then it's not morality. rug Aug 2012 #28
It's a matter of definition. MineralMan Aug 2012 #32
In this case, it's a matter of substance. rug Aug 2012 #39
So what is morality in your opinion intaglio Aug 2012 #48
I accept the most conventional one. rug Aug 2012 #55
You've just moved the goal posts by using a weak dictionary definition intaglio Aug 2012 #56
You are simply describing natural law, not morality. rug Aug 2012 #58
You again refuse to read intaglio Aug 2012 #59
You demonstrated nothing. rug Aug 2012 #60
Demonstration intaglio Aug 2012 #62
Ossa and Pelion! rug Aug 2012 #64
WELL SAID! eqfan592 Aug 2012 #67
You forgot to mention skepticscott Aug 2012 #69
serotonin levels affect altruistic behavior. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #40
They do, indeed. MineralMan Aug 2012 #42
And many, many things can affect serotonin levels. cbayer Aug 2012 #43
Oh, dear intaglio Aug 2012 #26
Then how does science measure a "philosophical concept"? rug Aug 2012 #29
I did not say it did intaglio Aug 2012 #45
Does the word "just" confuse you? rug Aug 2012 #61
Nice try, but the negative takes priority intaglio Aug 2012 #63
Hmm. "not just", "not simply", "not only". rug Aug 2012 #65
Of all the things that can be known, I would suggest that we know a minuscule amount. cbayer Aug 2012 #22
One at a time intaglio Aug 2012 #44
Your answers are interesting and come from your own perspective and experience. cbayer Aug 2012 #46
So you have no rebutals intaglio Aug 2012 #47
Why do you feel the need to make this so personal? cbayer Aug 2012 #49
Because, at base, you live a life unexamined intaglio Aug 2012 #57
Respectfully, you have no idea what you are talking about. cbayer Aug 2012 #66
Your incessant posting of all sorts of nonsense skepticscott Aug 2012 #70
None of which would be quite as bad skepticscott Aug 2012 #68
Just out of curiosity, LTX Aug 2012 #88
Not sure whether you're aiming that at me or cbayer intaglio Aug 2012 #91
Well, some of both skepticscott Aug 2012 #93
Because science doesn't promise you'll go to heaven if you believe in it and give it money? truebrit71 Aug 2012 #27
I thought the explanation in the article was pretty good, cbayer Aug 2012 #30
Religion doesn't need to be replaced... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #31
If that's all it means to you, then you are right not to participate. cbayer Aug 2012 #34
The corner pub is another sort of gathering place. MineralMan Aug 2012 #36
Science doesn't need to replace religion. Religion needs to just go away. stopbush Aug 2012 #33
Not going to happen. cbayer Aug 2012 #35
You're right, of course. MineralMan Aug 2012 #38
"For those who cannot follow the mathematics, belief in the Higgs is an act of faith, ... Jim__ Aug 2012 #37
Wow, that is some pretty inspired writing. cbayer Aug 2012 #41
What unadulterated hogwash skepticscott Aug 2012 #75
No, belief in the Higgs boson is not the same as belief in Brunei or tsetse flies. Jim__ Aug 2012 #85
See, even you need skepticscott Aug 2012 #87
Believing in the Higgs boson is fundamentally different than believing in electrons because ... Jim__ Aug 2012 #96
And yet "belief" in the Higgs boson is also fundamentally different than... trotsky Aug 2012 #97
So in other words you have no answer skepticscott Aug 2012 #98
You claiming that I'm "making new things up" is comical. Jim__ Aug 2012 #114
You made up the "fact" skepticscott Aug 2012 #115
No, actually I didn't just make up the fact that just about anyone can run an equivalent ... Jim__ Aug 2012 #116
I noticed you very conspicuously ducked and dodged skepticscott Aug 2012 #117
For those who cannot follow the mathematics, belief in the Higgs is an act of faith *in science*. enki23 Aug 2012 #78
The article suggests religion has been around for a long time, won't go away. It's like dimbear Aug 2012 #50
that might be true for people whose understanding of science is too poor... mike_c Aug 2012 #51
But is yours the only way? cbayer Aug 2012 #52
no, I didn't say-- nor did I mean-- that an inability to understand science... mike_c Aug 2012 #71
Agree with what you say here concerning replacing scientific facts with cbayer Aug 2012 #72
You can understand that religion has emotional power without believing any of the dumbshit tenets Nay Aug 2012 #53
Why "Why Science Can't Replace Religion" is a straw man. longship Aug 2012 #54
As Einstein said, "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." SarahM32 Aug 2012 #73
And right after that line, Einstein said... onager Aug 2012 #74
And rightly so. SarahM32 Aug 2012 #100
I have noted before how the faithful cherrypick words intaglio Aug 2012 #105
And "what god is" would be what, exactly? skepticscott Aug 2012 #99
The One. SarahM32 Aug 2012 #101
Oh for fuck's sake. Science is constantly replacing religion as an understanding of the world enki23 Aug 2012 #76
My position is that despite all that science has taught us, we know only the most cbayer Aug 2012 #79
It doesn't help them understand anything. enki23 Aug 2012 #80
Providing comfort and being meaningful skepticscott Aug 2012 #84
First, know your assumptions, for Christ's sake!! Coyotl Aug 2012 #77
Science is the process by which we encroach ever further into the former provinces of of the divine. enki23 Aug 2012 #81
Well, it's great to know that someone around here has the definitive and final answers cbayer Aug 2012 #82
And it's great to know skepticscott Aug 2012 #83
Just a point of clarification - LTX Aug 2012 #89
Well, that depends on what kind skepticscott Aug 2012 #92
It is semantics after a fashion, LTX Aug 2012 #94
They actually did no such thing. trotsky Aug 2012 #95
Amen, brother. LAGC Aug 2012 #86
"rational explanation...can't match the feeling evoked by...religious symbolism" PassingFair Aug 2012 #90
Recreation myth tama Aug 2012 #102
Well, if people were saying that skepticscott Aug 2012 #118
Yep n/t tama Aug 2012 #119
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