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SarahM32

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10. Yes, many scholars say the book of Isaiah had three authors. But ...

Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:45 PM

Aug 2012

You can say that the book of Isaiah, regardless of whether it had one or three authors, speaks of the Mashiach/Messiah that fulfills the prophecies of Isaiah. But it wasn't Jesus.

What's interesting is that today while most Christians still insist that Isaiah was about Jesus, growing numbers of Jews are saying that Isaiah was not even about a Mashiach or Messiah, but about the Jews and nation of Israel collectively.

That, however, disagrees with Jewish Sanhedrin 98, which concluded that Isaiah was definitely about the Mashiach who ultimately delivers judgment and establishes peace in the world.

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Does the book of Isaiah say anything about Jesus of Nazareth? [View all] SarahM32 Aug 2012 OP

Interesting. MineralMan Aug 2012 #1

As a seminary graduate I'd say: Ezlivin Aug 2012 #2

As a scholar help me out here please - Nazareth wasn't in the Bible? dballance Aug 2012 #3

I don't recall discussing that in seminary Ezlivin Aug 2012 #11

So the seminary does not cover the whole Bible in their classes? LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #16

No, not at all Ezlivin Aug 2012 #17

I wasn't referring to Nazareth or anything like that. LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #18

We covered it all Ezlivin Aug 2012 #19

Thank you for the insight. LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #20

I hope not Ezlivin Aug 2012 #24

Madelyn Murray O'Hare and Jim Morrison were seminary students alfredo Aug 2012 #26

Jesus being "from Nazareth" or being a "Nazarene" is mentioned 28 times in the NT. SarahM32 Aug 2012 #12

Thanks for the info. Which Bible Version? dballance Aug 2012 #14

Here are the numbers from KJV and NIV SarahM32 Aug 2012 #23

Most seminary graduates would not say no. They're taught the answer is yes. SarahM32 Aug 2012 #7

K&R - I want to hear from someone who knows the answers to the poster and the commenters. northoftheborder Aug 2012 #4

You're asking for a bit too much. An area of a great deal of disagreement. dimbear Aug 2012 #28

The three Isaiah and Jesus Thats my opinion Aug 2012 #5

Yes, many scholars say the book of Isaiah had three authors. But ... SarahM32 Aug 2012 #10

3 authors from 3 completely diferent periods of Judean History intaglio Aug 2012 #22

The translated quote from Isaiah that you include has a lot of the same cbayer Aug 2012 #6

Handel uses several exclusively Old Testament texts--and this is one. nt Thats my opinion Aug 2012 #8

Handel used Isaiah's words. SarahM32 Aug 2012 #9

Interesting website. Linguistically, historically I'm interested in the course of bible translations pinto Aug 2012 #13

Background and purpose of the site. SarahM32 Aug 2012 #15

One big problem intaglio Aug 2012 #21

It's not really a problem. SarahM32 Aug 2012 #25

The site you so proudly promote intaglio Aug 2012 #27

Not so. In fact, the site refutes the theology of Christian Apologetics. SarahM32 Aug 2012 #29

Being Jeffersonian does not mean that you abandon apologetics intaglio Aug 2012 #30

Intaglio, I disagree. And here's why: SarahM32 Aug 2012 #32

I said he was an apologist. Many faiths have apologists intaglio Aug 2012 #35

No. Jefferson was not an Apologist. And furthermore ... SarahM32 Aug 2012 #36

Well I can forgive you for misreading my sentence about Jefferson intaglio Aug 2012 #38

Well, since you put it that way ... I will say this: SarahM32 Sep 2012 #48

There are literary apologists intaglio Sep 2012 #49

Oh brother. SarahM32 Sep 2012 #50

You have stopped listening intaglio Sep 2012 #51

'Tis the other way around. SarahM32 Sep 2012 #54

You continue in your false description of apologetics intaglio Sep 2012 #55

Please. Let's be accurate. SarahM32 Sep 2012 #57

Again, apologetics is not just Christian, Isa is not the word you used intaglio Sep 2012 #59

Again, that's not relevant and avoids the issue. And ... SarahM32 Sep 2012 #60

I repeat only to be ignored by you again intaglio Sep 2012 #61

Okay, for the last time ... SarahM32 Sep 2012 #62

You distort and ignore, you are trapped in a web of deceit intaglio Sep 2012 #63

The relationship between Old Testament materials Thats my opinion Aug 2012 #31

Well, I wouldn't say that. SarahM32 Aug 2012 #33

Again you are speaking of "The Book of Isaiah" as if it is a singular production intaglio Aug 2012 #34

No, I am not. SarahM32 Aug 2012 #37

A fiat that you are right and others are wrong intaglio Aug 2012 #39

I think both of you have made some serious points. Thats my opinion Aug 2012 #41

Thanks. And ... SarahM32 Aug 2012 #43

Why it's more than mere hope. SarahM32 Sep 2012 #65

It has nothing to do with "profession" or money. SarahM32 Sep 2012 #66

There's an introduction to the 1611 King James Bible by its translators indicating Petrushka Aug 2012 #40

However, Strong in particular, Thats my opinion Aug 2012 #42

Yes. Thank you again. SarahM32 Aug 2012 #45

Petrushka, that's just more Apologetics, and ... SarahM32 Aug 2012 #44

Thanks for the link. Just discovered what the "messenger for the Spirit of truth" believes . . . Petrushka Aug 2012 #46

That story was published in February 2002. There's a more recent one online. SarahM32 Aug 2012 #47

FWIW: The writer of those articles, refers to himself in the thrid person, saying . . . Petrushka Sep 2012 #52

Ah, but you miss some very crucial facts. SarahM32 Sep 2012 #53

"...when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth." ?? Petrushka Sep 2012 #56

So, in other words, you will not address the facts, and simply ignore the truth? SarahM32 Sep 2012 #58

Why it's important that the book of Isaiah is not about Jesus SarahM32 Sep 2012 #64