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83. Children in this country

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 05:53 AM

Aug 2012

have received threats of violence from religious extremists for standing up to religious intrusion. As have adults. Here's just one example:

http://mobile.alternet.org/alternet/#!/entry/why-is-an-atheist-high-school-student-getting-vicious-death,50386963444f67894733f8ca/1

Fortunately, we don't have to put them in jail to protect them, since most of the religious fanatics in this country are cowardly blowhards.

And no, not all religious people are nut cases...but a lot of them who aren't still provide cover and apologetics for those who are.

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Pakistani Christians, fearing backlash, flee community after girl is accused of blasphemy [View all] cleanhippie Aug 2012 OP

Posted Sunday. rug Aug 2012 #1

Because it can be difficult to tell... cleanhippie Aug 2012 #2

No, I'm deadly serious. rug Aug 2012 #3

I agree. But moving on to the larger point I was making... cleanhippie Aug 2012 #6

I don't think there's quite the same parallel in this country - yet. rug Aug 2012 #9

I tend to agree, however, until the liberal/ progressive believers cleanhippie Aug 2012 #10

That holds only if you believe religious belief, per se, leads to extremist actions. rug Aug 2012 #12

No, it doesn't always, but that is beside the point. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #13

"Moderates" are failing to join nonbelievers in demanding that RWers STFU. rug Aug 2012 #14

It's only a dead end because moderates fail to do their part. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #16

I don't want to offend you but I really don't want a group grope with you or some others I've seen. rug Aug 2012 #17

Yeah, I get that you don't like the current approach. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #18

In my view, focus, focus, focus. rug Aug 2012 #19

An excellent opinion, that. Adsos Letter Aug 2012 #21

That's the current approach. Where are the moderates in this fight? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #22

They're there if you look. rug Aug 2012 #26

That's the problem, one should have to look for them. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #33

Here's a handful at random. rug Aug 2012 #34

I'll repeat this again, since it still hasn't sunk in. trotsky Aug 2012 #44

Repeat what? Was I talking to you? rug Aug 2012 #47

You were spouting the same falsehoods that I have responded to in other threads. trotsky Aug 2012 #48

The only one spouting, if not blustering, is you. rug Aug 2012 #49

You can include my wife and I in that "we." eqfan592 Aug 2012 #50

Did you inform trotsky of that? rug Aug 2012 #53

Well, it's clear what you chose. trotsky Aug 2012 #51

I think the only honest sincere statement I've heard from you is that you keep your atheism secret rug Aug 2012 #52

It's quite the clear pattern, you know. trotsky Aug 2012 #54

It's hard to see an alleged sincere attempt when it's buried in religious attacks wrapped around rug Aug 2012 #55

Where is my "religious attack" in this thread, rug? trotsky Aug 2012 #62

It's there but I won't dwell on it. rug Aug 2012 #63

No, rug, let's clear the air. trotsky Aug 2012 #67

Where is it, rug? trotsky Aug 2012 #69

Still waiting for you to point it out. trotsky Aug 2012 #70

Hey rug - just point it out when you have the chance. trotsky Aug 2012 #78

Still waiting, rug. trotsky Aug 2012 #81

Ready to point out the "religious attack" yet, rug? trotsky Aug 2012 #84

Still waiting, rug. trotsky Aug 2012 #85

Your false accusation stands unproven and unretracted. trotsky Aug 2012 #86

Waste of time skepticscott Aug 2012 #64

Are you in the habit of internet psychiatric diagnoses? rug Aug 2012 #68

He's poisoned the well to such an extent... trotsky Aug 2012 #4

Well, look what's floated into my well. rug Aug 2012 #5

To be fair, I didn't post this for that reason. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #7

Your intense sarcasm and dripping contempt for MOST issues involving these topics trotsky Aug 2012 #8

You ask for help from those who have similar concerns about Leontius Aug 2012 #11

Well, by all means, please tell us what you think would work best for us all. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #15

I'll stand with the common ground of secular government and Church/State separation. Adsos Letter Aug 2012 #20

"The parallels to our own christian fundies here are" actually LARED Aug 2012 #23

I don't expect that one who has espoused theocratic ideals would get it, LaRed. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #24

The carelessness with which you toss the words Leontius Aug 2012 #25

This is not unnoticed. nt LARED Aug 2012 #27

Neither were the things you stated. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #31

Have you read the things he has espoused? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #30

I don't recall any that fit that description by him Leontius Aug 2012 #37

So, you want proof? Is that what you are saying? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #39

What I am saying is I don't recall any of his posts that would lead me to conclude Leontius Aug 2012 #45

Of course you dont. And evolution is just a theory too that does not disprove creationism. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #59

Why is it when you are given multiple chances to show the truth Leontius Aug 2012 #60

Would get what? LARED Aug 2012 #28

More like a rope than a thread. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #32

I guess you're welcome to live in any reality of LARED Aug 2012 #35

Do you live under a rock, or have you been in deep freeze stasis, or what? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #36

Please provide a link to an organization or individual that is advocating a theocracy LARED Aug 2012 #38

*Sigh* cleanhippie Aug 2012 #40

Your inability to back up your claims is LARED Aug 2012 #42

Ok, here ya go. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #43

You still haven't produced any evidence that Lared okasha Aug 2012 #46

Thank goodness for the handy, dandy search function. eqfan592 Aug 2012 #56

Thanks for the assist. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #57

No problem. eqfan592 Aug 2012 #66

Again, you display a lack of understanding of the word theocracy nt LARED Aug 2012 #61

Definition of theocracy (from wikipedia) eqfan592 Aug 2012 #65

Theocracy from a dictionary is what I have in mind LARED Aug 2012 #71

What you said went beyond what George Washington said. eqfan592 Aug 2012 #75

Well if that's the case then I am in good company. nt LARED Aug 2012 #76

Uhhh, ok.... eqfan592 Aug 2012 #79

So, uh, what was that you were saying? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #58

It's a pretty unimpressive list LARED Aug 2012 #72

Expect only silence Leontius Aug 2012 #73

What "truth" are you talking about? eqfan592 Aug 2012 #74

The truth is that he does have a more expansive view of the role and influence religion Leontius Aug 2012 #80

kick samsingh Aug 2012 #29

Is that the little girl with Down's Syndrome? Odin2005 Aug 2012 #41

It's been suggested that she had Downs, but what we sort of know for sure is she has a seizure dimbear Aug 2012 #82

Where in the US is any child hiding out in jail because religious extremists might kill her? pnwmom Aug 2012 #77

Children in this country skepticscott Aug 2012 #83

A few more details seep out today (NPR.) It would seem Muslim Pakistanis in some cases dimbear Aug 2012 #87