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In reply to the discussion: Does the book of Isaiah say anything about Jesus of Nazareth? [View all]SarahM32
(270 posts)The author of the site is a Jeffersonian both in his views concerning democracy, the common good, religious freedom. and rejection of Theocracy.
His take on Christianity, which is summarized in the article About Christianity, is like Thomas Jefferson's.
As you may know, Jefferson edited the New Testament of the official church canon and removed what he called "corruptions" and all the supernatural and superstitious stuff.
Not that Jefferson was against the actual teachings of Jesus. In fact, Jefferson wrote: " "Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern, which have come under my observation, none appear to me so pure as that of Jesus."
However, on the other hand, Jefferson wrote: ""Among the sayings and discourses imputed to [Jesus] by his biographers, I find many passages of fine imagination, correct morality, and of the most lovely benevolence; and others, again, of so much ignorance, so much absurdity, so much untruth, charlatanism and imposture, as to pronounce it impossible that such contradictions should have proceeded from the same being. I separate, therefore, the gold from the [refuse]; restore him to the former, and leave the latter to the stupidity of some, the roguery of others of his disciples. Of this band of dupes and imposters, Paul was the first corruptor of the doctrines of Jesus."."
"But a short time elapsed after the death of [Jesus] the great reformer of the Jewish religion, before his principles were departed from by those who professed to be his special servants, and perverted into an engine for enslaving mankind, and aggrandizing their oppressors in Church and State." --- Thomas Jefferson
The author of the message I promote has realized what Jefferson realized, and feels much the same way about Christianity and the need for separation of church and state.
As for your belief that the book of Isaiah is worthless, you are entitled to your belief. And I agree with you that there are contradictions in both the OT and NT of the Bible. But just because the book of Isaiah was written by three different authors, it does not make the one that wrote Chapter 53 and others relevant to the actual modern Mashiach (Messiah or son of man) any less valuable. In fact, they elaborate on and clarify what other prophets wrote.
In fact, proper understanding of the book of Isaiah is crucial now since many Christians (especially fundamentalists who believe Paul's theology of Christian Apologetics is "gospel') still insist the book is about Jesus, and Orthodox Jews and right-wing Jews insist Chapter 53 is not even about a Mashiach (Messiah) but about the Jewish people collectively as a nation.
It was knowing and understanding Chapter 53 and other relevant pieces of the book of Isaiah that Jesus of Nazareth was able to say and prophesy the following:
"I tell you the truth: I must go away, but I will send the Counselor to you. He will righteously judge the world; because I am going to heaven and you will see me no more. I came not to judge the world, but the rulers of this world must be judged. I have much more to say to you, but it is more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak of himself, because of himself he will do nothing but the will of the one who sent him. He will [write and] speak only what he hears from God, and he will tell you what is to come. He will glorify me by having what is mine and making it known to you." (Paraphrasing and clarifying John 8:28, John 12:47, and John 16 verses 7 through 15)
I'm sure you won't believe it. But that's fine with me. I'm writing this mainly for those who may be interested.
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