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In reply to the discussion: Atheist group at odds with ethnic festivals [View all]LARED
(11,735 posts)78. Sorry you don't like my analogy, but it makes no difference.
There's a law against charging people different amounts of money for the same thing based on religion
True, except no one is doing this in this case
With the clear intent of the discount structure being to "encourage" attendance at religious services, there mere fact that it's technically possible to kill time some other way doesn't change the fact that the need to kill time some other way if you want that discount exists only because someone is trying to skirt the edges of the law (we'll see what the court thinks about how successful they've been) and provide a bonus for believers, and encouragement for non-believers to do what the believers do.
I see no where in the law that disallows an encouragement (your words) to attend a religious service. The law is about access, pricing, and equal enjoyment of the public place. An encoragement (again your words) of itself denies not one those things protected by this law.
You'd recognize the touch of sleaziness here if you weren't inclined to see getting people into church as a wonderful, wholesome, helpful thing -- regardless of the tactics used.
You are wrong about this. I would never encourage anyone to attend a Catholic mass. I disagree with the RC church on many levels, but recongnize it is not my business to tell people how to worship, only to ensure people are free to worship as they see fit without unneeded government interferance.
Wisconsin statute 106.52(3)(a) makes it illegal to "deny to another or charge another a higher price than the regular rate for the full and equal enjoyment of any public place of accommodation or amusement because of sex, race, color, creed, disability, sexual orientation, national origin or ancestry." The federal Civil Rights Act has similar language.
True, except no one is doing this in this case
With the clear intent of the discount structure being to "encourage" attendance at religious services, there mere fact that it's technically possible to kill time some other way doesn't change the fact that the need to kill time some other way if you want that discount exists only because someone is trying to skirt the edges of the law (we'll see what the court thinks about how successful they've been) and provide a bonus for believers, and encouragement for non-believers to do what the believers do.
I see no where in the law that disallows an encouragement (your words) to attend a religious service. The law is about access, pricing, and equal enjoyment of the public place. An encoragement (again your words) of itself denies not one those things protected by this law.
You'd recognize the touch of sleaziness here if you weren't inclined to see getting people into church as a wonderful, wholesome, helpful thing -- regardless of the tactics used.
You are wrong about this. I would never encourage anyone to attend a Catholic mass. I disagree with the RC church on many levels, but recongnize it is not my business to tell people how to worship, only to ensure people are free to worship as they see fit without unneeded government interferance.
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No, just some atheists suck. The whiners, intolerants, exclusionists, haters, mockers, extremists
Starboard Tack
Aug 2012
#8
That's right, ST stands up against those awful, bigoted, intolerant "New Atheists."
eqfan592
Aug 2012
#44
Nonsense! He stands up to bigotry and intolerance from wherever it emanates, as do I.
Starboard Tack
Aug 2012
#46
I don't know what that has to do with tolerance. Maybe you'd care to explain.
Starboard Tack
Aug 2012
#49
Excellent, on both counts. I try and bike riding is good for body and soul. I do it every day.
Starboard Tack
Aug 2012
#26
If I recall correctly, the only rule is that you can't participate in communion.
cbayer
Aug 2012
#75
I strongly suspect that your position of privilege is looking squarely down on me.
cbayer
Aug 2012
#63
Lol, he's either the most sarcastic bishop to ever wear a miter or he's a blithering idiot.
rug
Aug 2012
#16
How is this any different from movie theaters charging different prices for different times?
ButterflyBlood
Aug 2012
#79