Does the book of Isaiah say anything about Jesus of Nazareth?

[SarahM32]

53. Ah, but you miss some very crucial facts.

Petrushka,

There are instances were the webmaster at that site uses the word “we” indicating that he speaks for the Coalition, and it is explained that the message on the Coalition site was preserved from the original web site of the original author. But I can see why you would assume that he writes in the third person and that he is the messenger himself.

It's possible. But to me that's immaterial. To me, I think you are trying to shoot the messenger down, and ignore the message. And to me, it’s the message that’s important, and crucial.

As for your concern about “misquoting” Jesus, I too had noticed that he changed a word to say “his generation” rather than “this generation,” which we see in the official church canon. I too wondered about that. But, having read About Christianity, Prophecies Re: He Who Fulfills Them, The Second Coming Story, and other relevant articles, I understand why.

I will try to explain by pointing out that the quote about “this generation” (or “his generation”) comes from this larger context:

Jesus said: "The days will come when people will want to see one of the days of the son of man, and they shall not see it. So they will look here and there, but do not follow them. For as the lightning lightens all parts under heaven, so shall also the (work of the) son of man be in his day. But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected by his (or this) generation." (Luke 17:20-25)

In the first place, there were instances where the writers of the New Testament reported that Jesus spoke of “this generation” or “you” when he was not speaking of their generation or them, but of the generation that would exist when prophecy was fulfilled at the end of the age. Remember, Jesus said: “I come not to bring peace, but division,” knowing that he ushered in an age of division and conflict.

For example, it is written that “you shall hear rumors of war, and nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, and these will be the beginning of sorrows,” etc. And in such instances Jesus was talking about what would be happening now, at the end of the age (aeon) that he ushered in.

In the second place, there were also instances when they spoke of “this generation” meaning their generation, erroneously believing that prophecies would be fulfilled during their lifetimes.

For example, Matthew 23:36 says “All these things shall come upon this generation.” Matthew 24:34 says: “This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.” Mark 13:30 says: “This generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.” Luke 21:32 says: “This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.” Revelation 1:1 says: “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John.” And Paul wrote as if the “end” was near and even immanent, and he was trying to prepare his generation for it.

Additionally, there is further proof that Jesus was not speaking of himself in Luke 17:20-25 and other instances where he said the son of man to come would “first be rejected by this generation.”

For example, Jesus was accepted by multitudes of people in his generation. That is made clear throughout the book of Matthew and in the book of Luke. Even Matthew 4:25 states: "Great multitudes followed Him, from Galilee, and from Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea, and beyond the Jordan." Matthew 13:14 states: "Hearing of this, the crowds followed him on foot from the towns." Luke 14:25 states that: "Great multitudes went with him, and he turned to them and said..."

Those are but a few parts of the story of Jesus that make it very clear that he spoke to the multitudes who followed him during his travels on foot, on the roads and streets. And that was also confirmed by an impartial Jewish historian, Flavius Josephus, who wrote at the time that Jesus "won over many Jews and many of the Greeks" in his generation.

Additionally, Jesus suffered only on the last day of his life, not first or beforehand, but only after he had completed his mission. Therefore, Jesus was not speaking of himself but the next son of man who would “first be rejected by his generation” — whose message (work) is sent before him according the Isaiah’s prophecy, and can be seen in a flash, like lightning, all over the world (over the Internet) according to Jesus’ prophecy.

Jesus spoke of the end of the age when he warned us of the great conflict and tribulation caused by the hypocrites, deceptive leaders, false christs, false shepherds and false prophets. And he was speaking of the end of the age when he spoke of the coming of the son of man, saying that all the conflict and war and tribulation would be signs prior to his coming.

Jesus essentially said: "I tell you the truth: I must go away, but I will send the Counselor to you. He will righteously judge the world; because I am going to heaven and you will see me no more. I came not to judge the world, but the rulers of this world must be judged. I have much more to say to you, but it is more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak of himself, because of himself he will do nothing but the will of the one who sent him. He will [write and] speak only what he hears from God, and he will tell you what is to come. He will glorify me by having what is mine and making it known to you." (Paraphrasing and clarifying John 8:28, John 12:47, and John 16 verses 7-15)

Jesus clearly revealed that because he had to go away and would be seen no more on earth, he would send someone delivering a needed message, who will issue the judgment, guide humanity unto the truth, show you things to come, and declare the testimony of the Christ-Avatar who is in heaven with God.

(This information was quoted or paraphrased from Prophecies Re: He Who Fulfills Them.)
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