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In reply to the discussion: Does the book of Isaiah say anything about Jesus of Nazareth? [View all]SarahM32
(270 posts)Jefferson was not "issuing a defense of his imagination of Jesus," and Jefferson was not an Apologist. In fact, in editing the New Testament, Jefferson was merely pointed out the "lovely benevolence" of the universally true words of Jesus, and he edited out and rejected and refuted all the "corruptions" and supernatural elements in the doctrines and dogma in the church canon.
As for Issa, Ancient scrolls revealed that Jesus spent seventeen years in India and Tibet. From age thirteen to age twenty-nine, he was both a student and teacher of Buddhists and Hindus. The story of his journey from Jerusalem to Benares was recorded by Brahman historians, and they know him and love him as Issa.
In 1894 Nicolas Notovitch published a book called The Unknown Life of Christ. He was a Russian doctor who journeyed extensively throughout Afghanistan, India, and Tibet. Notovitch traveled to Ladak, and into the Himalayas. While in Ladak, he was injured and stayed at the Himis Buddhist Convent. While he was there, he learned or ancient records of the life of Jesus Christ and he found a Tibetan translation of the legend. He employed translators and copied the book or scroll known as "The Life of Saint Issa," and he renamed his translation.
However, when Notovitch returned home he was met with much resistance and controversy over the authenticity of the document. He was accused of perpetrating a hoax, and he was ridiculed as a phoney. He remained steadfast, and advised scientific researchers to confirm the story.
A Hindu skeptic, Swami Abhedananda, who doubted the story, went to the Himalayas determined to either find the Himis manuscript about Issa, or to expose Notivitch as a fraud. Abhedanandas book of travels, entitled Kashmir O Tibetti, tells that he did visit the Himis monastery and includes a Bengali translation of two hundred twenty-four verses which are essentially identical to the Notovitch translation. Abhedananda was thus convinced of the authenticity of the Issa story.
In 1925, another Russian, a philosopher and scientist named Nicholas Roerich arrived at Himis. Roerich saw the same documents as Notovitch and Abhedananda, and he also recorded the same story of Saint Issa. Speaking of Issa, Roerich quoted: Issa stayed in several ancient cities of India such as Benares. All loved him because Issa dwelt in peace with Vaishas and Shudras whom he instructed and helped.
However, some Hindus hated what Issa said about idols, because they did not realize that the statues of the Hindu gods were symbols for the many aspects of Brahman (God), so he left and went into Nepal and into the Himalayan mountains. After a time, Issa went to Ladak, Leh, and he taught in the monasteries and in the bazaars (the market places).
Unfortunately, even though many Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, progressive Christians and others acknowledge the story, here is much dispute now about it. The fundamentalist American Christian Right considers such a claim blasphemous, and because of the controversies, the Buddhist monastery has since also denied the story and the scrolls about Issa are missing.
The evidence provided by Notovitch, Abhedananda and Roerich speaks for itself, however. And it is confirmed by the fact that the basic, core teachings of Jesus/Issa are very similar to Siddhartha Gautama the Buddha, as is explained in books like Jesus and Buddha: The Parallel Sayings, by Marcus Borg et al, and Going Home: Jesus and Buddha as Brothers, by Thich Nhat Hanh, and in other books on the subject. Furthermore, it is confirmed by the fact that Jesus spoke as a Hindu Avatar, speaking as, but for, the Ancient One and the Holy One who is within, above and around us all.
As for ecstasy, as I've already discussed, you are talking about lesser experiences. But that is not to lessen their importance or impact, or profundity. Even relatively small or short experiences of ecstasy are wonderful and awesome, and some of them can cause the person who experienced them to feel as if it was the ultimate experience -- hence the tendency for them to develop messianic complexes and other kinds of self-delusion.
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