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cbayer

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11. Agree that the texts are contradictory and, therefore, can not all be true.

Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:13 PM

Sep 2012

Most people do not read them literally or think they were actually written by a god, so they are able to see that the hand of man caused distortions and even fabrications.

I don't see this as a contest between secular democracy and religion. They are not mutually exclusive and each has a track record in it's own right.

You support the US, I suspect, in many ways. Does that mean that you validate the use of drones to kill innocents in foreign lands? I suspect pretty much everyone supports in some way organizations that do things that they would be individually opposed to. Each individual must weigh what they see as the positives and negatives and make their personal choice.

Separating the leadership of an organization or church from it's adherents is an important distinction to make. I ran into people in other countries that held me personally responsible for the behavior of GW Bush.

No one has to believe, including you. No one has the right to tell someone else that they shouldn't believe, including you.

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What Mormonism teaches me about religion [View all] RainDog Sep 2012 OP

10 suckers and it's shame thelordofhell Sep 2012 #1

yep... You are correct... Yooperman Sep 2012 #2

My daughter's English teacher exboyfil Sep 2012 #3

What perplexes me the most is how we can stand back and agree that Mormonism (for one) is BS NightWatcher Sep 2012 #4

I love this post :) Fix The Stupid Sep 2012 #5

You win the thread. cleanhippie Sep 2012 #6

If one assumes that all the stories of a given religion are "non reality based" cbayer Sep 2012 #7

Well, reality-based means a specific thing RainDog Sep 2012 #8

Again, if you start from the assumption that all historic religious references and stories cbayer Sep 2012 #9

I didn't say "all" - I said the texts are obviously full of errors RainDog Sep 2012 #10

Agree that the texts are contradictory and, therefore, can not all be true. cbayer Sep 2012 #11

"Most people do not read them literally or think they were actually written by a god" - Really? cleanhippie Sep 2012 #13

Yes. This "gradation" of belief is how people say "I'm not like that" RainDog Sep 2012 #32

if they were not written by god, then why do they have any more validity than any other text? RainDog Sep 2012 #17

A recent post here highlighted a poll which showed that most people who consider themselves cbayer Sep 2012 #19

That's true, people will make their own decisions RainDog Sep 2012 #21

Are you really comparing all the flavors of different religious groups with the KKK? cbayer Sep 2012 #24

I was talking about your attempt to say "it's personal" RainDog Sep 2012 #26

You appear to be an anti-theist. Am I correct about that? cbayer Sep 2012 #30

My OP was about religion in general RainDog Sep 2012 #31

Denial of what? cbayer Sep 2012 #33

Thanks for this reply RainDog Sep 2012 #35

I think we probably agree to a large extent as well. cbayer Sep 2012 #36

I would really like people's answer to my questions RainDog Sep 2012 #34

It's also a reality-based fact okasha Sep 2012 #12

Those changes are happening due to societal pressure and the inability to defend those beliefs cleanhippie Sep 2012 #14

That's true, basically they are caving in to secular ethics and morality... Humanist_Activist Sep 2012 #15

Those changes come about because people's reality shows them their belief group is wrong RainDog Sep 2012 #23

In a nutshell, Joseph Smith was a conman. He was caught flatfooted in fakery and deceit. dimbear Sep 2012 #16

I don't see any difference between Mormonism and other belief systems RainDog Sep 2012 #18

Many fundamentalist christians aren't seeing the difference either cbayer Sep 2012 #20

Fundamenalists are part of the same group RainDog Sep 2012 #22

You are doing too much lumping and no splitting. cbayer Sep 2012 #25

How do you want to split it? RainDog Sep 2012 #27

You have already made up your mind here. cbayer Sep 2012 #28

LOL RainDog Sep 2012 #29