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Thu Sep 13, 2012, 03:43 PM Sep 2012

Chief Rabbi Lord Sacks and Richard Dawkins debate deity [View all]

By Jonathan Kalmus, September 13, 2012

Chief Rabbi Lord Sacks has described the opening of atheist evolutionist Richard Dawkins’s God Delusion book as “antisemitic” and profoundly misrepresenting Judaism.

Professor Dawkins, the first holder of the Charles Simonyi Chair in the Public Understanding of Science at Oxford University, refuted the claim as “ridiculous” and said the string of names he called the God of the Old Testament, from misogynistic, masochistic and an “ethnic cleanser”, were to be taken as a joke.

The exchange came during a filmed hour-long debate at a BBC Religions and Ethics festival at Salford’s MediaCityUK.

Lord Sacks told the academic: “Richard, I don’t think you have fully understood or appreciate that there are Christian atheists and Jewish atheists, and you are only a Christian atheist, and because you read the Bible in a Christian way, you have become prejudiced. That is why I didn’t read your opening to Chapter Two as a joke but as a profoundly antisemitic statement.”

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/80594/chief-rabbi-lord-sacks-and-richard-dawkins-debate-deity

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I read about this earlier. Apparently things got somewhat heated. cbayer Sep 2012 #1
"christian atheists" and "jewish atheists" WTF? mike_c Sep 2012 #2
This is how I understand it. cbayer Sep 2012 #5
Bull... rexcat Sep 2012 #6
OT vs Torah........ dimbear Sep 2012 #18
So Dawkins should not point out that the God of the OT edhopper Sep 2012 #20
Where did I say I agreed with the Rabbi? cbayer Sep 2012 #21
I am atheist coming from a Jewish perspective. edhopper Sep 2012 #22
Thanks for the clarification. cbayer Sep 2012 #23
Here's 3 short video clips covering the same part of the debate. Jim__ Sep 2012 #3
I'm sure the entire "debate" will soon be up on You Tube HarveyDarkey Sep 2012 #17
Talk is cheap... rexcat Sep 2012 #4
Maybe I should listen more to that bit of advice from SJG. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #7
He doesn't call Dawkins anti-semitic, he says the passage is antisemitic. Jim__ Sep 2012 #8
Suuuuuuure. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #9
Sacks explicitly makes that statement. Jim__ Sep 2012 #11
Really????????? rexcat Sep 2012 #12
No, actually, it's not the same thing. Jim__ Sep 2012 #19
Do you prefer the objectivity of Pharyngula? rug Sep 2012 #10
I would just prefer objectivity... rexcat Sep 2012 #13
I think he just wanted to snipe at P.Z. Myers. onager Sep 2012 #14
No, PZ's too busy feuding with Thunderfoot. rug Sep 2012 #15
More like... rexcat Sep 2012 #16
RD and RS Yesspam Sep 2012 #24
If this is spam it is the Picasso of spam. rug Sep 2012 #25
I was thinking more along the lines of Salvador Dali. cbayer Sep 2012 #26
what a bunch of nonsense davidb19766 Sep 2012 #27
What a bunch Yesspam Sep 2012 #28
I hope you will post often. Welcome to our little circle of friends. n/t dimbear Sep 2012 #29
I agree and disagree here Meshuga Mar 2013 #30
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