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humblebum

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5. If the Veterans' monument has stood for that long, yes, it is worth the fight. nt

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Cross-shaped WWI monument causes atheist uproar [View all] rug Sep 2012 OP

Being an atheist myself Lebam in LA Sep 2012 #1

+1000 My sentiments exactly. Talk about priorities. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #25

Right elleng Sep 2012 #51

Radical atheist groups are definitely not helping their "cause" by humblebum Sep 2012 #2

To call AHA... rexcat Sep 2012 #10

As if they are the only group engaged in such actions? They are not. humblebum Sep 2012 #11

"indicates you don't know what you are talking about" - Yep, pretty much sums it up, rexcat. cleanhippie Sep 2012 #14

The words "Atheist Uproar" in the headline pretty much tell all. humblebum Sep 2012 #18

The headline is hyperbole... rexcat Sep 2012 #21

... rexcat Sep 2012 #24

But won't we get plaques, pestilence and famine JNelson6563 Sep 2012 #3

The cross is not a religious symbol pokerfan Sep 2012 #6

Jeez. Just take it down - not worth the fight, but cbayer Sep 2012 #4

If the Veterans' monument has stood for that long, yes, it is worth the fight. nt humblebum Sep 2012 #5

Sounds like the argument for slavery Goblinmonger Sep 2012 #9

Any comparison of this to slavery is absurd. But it is worth a fight. nt humblebum Sep 2012 #12

Both used an appeal to tradition. n/t Goblinmonger Sep 2012 #16

One did great harm. The other harmed no one. One dishonored an entire race of human beings. humblebum Sep 2012 #17

One could say that religion dishonors the human race... rexcat Sep 2012 #22

And one would be a bigot to say it. Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2012 #31

Stalking now... rexcat Sep 2012 #32

I'm not stalking you. Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2012 #46

It was not a bigoted statement... rexcat Sep 2012 #48

I apologize Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2012 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author rexcat Sep 2012 #73

Suppression of expression dishonors the human race. I seem to recall the Taliban humblebum Sep 2012 #33

Wow, you are all over the board Goblinmonger Sep 2012 #34

I love the way you rationalize. LOL humblebum Sep 2012 #35

"rationalize"? Nice argument, Hector Projector. Goblinmonger Sep 2012 #38

I would say that you are the one grasping at straws here. humblebum Sep 2012 #39

Do you have a link Goblinmonger Sep 2012 #49

Here it is. humblebum Sep 2012 #53

Yeah, the site removed it, but there are others. rug Sep 2012 #56

"only concerned with those memorials that deal with Christian soldiers" - So humblebum Sep 2012 #59

How tasty was your heaping helping of privilege for lunch? Goblinmonger Sep 2012 #60

Tell me. Who is stopping other groups from putting up memorials? humblebum Sep 2012 #61

Please give me one SCOTUS ruling that puts that forth as a condition. Goblinmonger Sep 2012 #62

As has already been pointed out. That standard has changed over the years and the biggest fights humblebum Sep 2012 #63

So there is no SCOTUS ruling ever in the past that Goblinmonger Sep 2012 #64

Jefferson and Madison were not the U. S. government, nor were their positions on religion humblebum Sep 2012 #65

Well, they were both Presidents Goblinmonger Sep 2012 #67

The reason religious symbols are an issue now... rexcat Sep 2012 #40

If "freedom from religion as our founders had expressed" is an absolute separation as you suggest humblebum Sep 2012 #41

Chaplins should not be a part of the US Congress... rexcat Sep 2012 #42

You are using straw man tactics now. The fact remains humblebum Sep 2012 #43

No straw man tactics that I am aware of... rexcat Sep 2012 #44

Do I favor chaplains in Congress? Yes. But your humblebum Sep 2012 #45

Actually, there is Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2012 #47

A limited separation most certainly exists. However, if any absolute separation existed humblebum Sep 2012 #66

YOU are the one that brought up Conressional Chaplains, so how can he be using as a straw man? cleanhippie Sep 2012 #50

And that has what to do with Sen. Inhofe or my opinion of him? Nothing. humblebum Sep 2012 #52

Like I said... rexcat Sep 2012 #36

That depends on your point of view. nt humblebum Sep 2012 #37

The Desperate Search continues. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #7

It's quite easy. rug Sep 2012 #8

If it is on public land then... rexcat Sep 2012 #23

"Cross shaped"? WTF? And no pic? cleanhippie Sep 2012 #13

+ rug Sep 2012 #15

It has been there for over 80 years Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #19

If they take it down moobu2 Sep 2012 #20

Why can't people learn tolerance for different beliefs? The world would be a better place. Don't appleannie1 Sep 2012 #26

The point is that it is on public ground Goblinmonger Sep 2012 #29

Easy solution. Sell the land the cross is on to a church for $1.00 and let them maintain it. Glorfindel Sep 2012 #27

Then they would have to sell the same amount of land to every other religion moobu2 Sep 2012 #28

So, they sell 1 foot by 1 foot plots in the square for $1 apiece to any organization that wants it. cbayer Sep 2012 #30

"There are no athiests in foxholes, or during 9/11" HockeyMom Sep 2012 #54

Don't bet on either... rexcat Sep 2012 #69

No atheists in foxholes, eh...? onager Sep 2012 #70

Exactly why and when the state acquired the property the monument is on is Leontius Sep 2012 #55

See this. rug Sep 2012 #57

This is the most I can find cbayer Sep 2012 #58

Looks like it was built on private land originally. rug Sep 2012 #71

... The Snyder-Farmer Post of the American Legion of Hyattsville erected the forty foot cross struggle4progress Sep 2012 #68