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Nihil

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61. I like your brief outline ...

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:50 AM

Sep 2012

... and, as far as it goes, it's how I feel on the subject too.

> Since you asked, I really don't like to label myself. But I identify with Deists and Freemasons,
> as most of the Founding Fathers did, because I am aware of the existence of God, or the Deity,
> but the God I know is not an idol or a person ... not some "Almighty Superman" in the sky.
>
> My experience and education enables me to see that the God of Abraham, Jesus and
> Muhammad is the same God, also known by Hindus as Brahman, by Buddhists as the
> Supreme Consciousness, and by other religions by other names. It's all the same Deity,
> witnessed or realized or experienced by many enlightened people throughout history.

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What if God is intentionally hiding? [View all] DetlefK Sep 2012 OP

God threw us a lifeboat, and the lifeboat's name is Barack Obama graham4anything Sep 2012 #1

.... 2on2u Sep 2012 #2

What would have happened had Arthur spoken the sacred word to God? Tyrs WolfDaemon Sep 2012 #39

Rapture I imagine.. n/t 2on2u Sep 2012 #41

How could you tell the difference? longship Sep 2012 #3

Yep HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #4

Yes. Spot on! cleanhippie Sep 2012 #13

or go with Lucretius, the gods, if they exist are indifferent and impotent. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #16

Ya gotta love Carlin. He's right on. That concept of God IS bullshit. SarahM32 Sep 2012 #21

Hi Sarah. A reasoned argument. longship Sep 2012 #24

Thanks. As for me ... SarahM32 Sep 2012 #30

I like your brief outline ... Nihil Sep 2012 #61

Then it wouldn't be God. rug Sep 2012 #5

Would you care to elaborate? DetlefK Sep 2012 #11

No, other than to say you're projecting attributes. rug Sep 2012 #15

Well, rug, couldn't it be the deist god? longship Sep 2012 #25

Not if it's hiding. rug Sep 2012 #26

Aha! It's the intention! I got it. longship Sep 2012 #27

He's hiding with Sanata Clause and the unicorns..... nt bowens43 Sep 2012 #6

God the Father is not hiding he is letting mankind rule the earth as man sees fit. part man all 86 Sep 2012 #7

That's just a cop-out. mr blur Sep 2012 #8

He has spoken and He has not stuttered. cbayer Sep 2012 #18

Or our time-frames are skewed to the immediate. n/t LTX Sep 2012 #42

But there's the risk, we could accidently kill us during that lesson. DetlefK Sep 2012 #10

so at some time in the past your gods acted in the real world? Just not now? Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #17

Yes and no. LTX Sep 2012 #43

That seems to be the case with many religious traditions skepticscott Sep 2012 #44

Apparently he is always hiding Marrah_G Sep 2012 #9

Interesting question. If there is a god or gods, has s/he made a purposeful cbayer Sep 2012 #12

People hide for a reason... rrneck Sep 2012 #14

What if the nature of God defies description and is unfathomable? (And, about the "hidden" aspect) SarahM32 Sep 2012 #19

Then you all should stop worrying about His Unfathomableness and get on with life. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #23

Who's worried about it? SarahM32 Sep 2012 #28

Concerned, worried, whatever. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #31

But what I said was that a person can know it, even though it's hard to describe. SarahM32 Sep 2012 #37

If he's unfathomable, why not get over it and call yourself an agnostic? longship Sep 2012 #29

actually the agnostic view is that the existence of god cannot be known, not that god is unknowable. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #32

I just don't see a difference between unknowable and nonexistent. longship Sep 2012 #33

Lets make a deal. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #36

I like that, Monty Hall! longship Sep 2012 #38

Because God is unfathomable, it doesn't mean one cannot see and feel what it is. SarahM32 Sep 2012 #40

Do your gods act in the real world in any way that can be examined? Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #49

Except that you HAVE described "god" skepticscott Sep 2012 #45

Look, here's what I said: SarahM32 Sep 2012 #47

In other words skepticscott Sep 2012 #48

Your definition of "skeptic" is way different that the actual definition. SarahM32 Sep 2012 #50

Okay Vietnameravet Sep 2012 #54

If god is intentionally hiding from us, then god is a bigger douchebag than we thought. cleanhippie Sep 2012 #20

It's not a matter of "hiding." It's a matter of us not seeing actual reality. SarahM32 Sep 2012 #22

What if a giant pink elephant lives on the dark side of the moon? EvolveOrConvolve Sep 2012 #34

Why has he decided to live there, and not on earth, visible to all? DetlefK Sep 2012 #35

What if.... AlbertCat Sep 2012 #46

What if human beings are intentionally stupid? That makes more sense to me. geckosfeet Sep 2012 #51

WE are Gods. WE are playing this video game with each other, and Speck Tater Sep 2012 #52

Shiva, I recognize you! drokhole Sep 2012 #56

"Mara, I see you." --the Buddha. (Same concept) nt Speck Tater Sep 2012 #57

Cool, that's a new one to me! drokhole Sep 2012 #60

Then by this standard God is a liar and an incompetent intaglio Sep 2012 #53

When you hear the shit people pin on God, wouldn't you? orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #55

... Alduin Sep 2012 #58

I know there is something to be gained in the debate Thats my opinion Sep 2012 #59