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55. Sabrina, this is a bullshit straw-man

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:28 AM

Sep 2012

and it's off-topic. No one is talking about death penalty in general. We're talking about who "thinks it's okay to kill someone if they insult the prophet mohammed".

To these people, that is 1000x the crime of theft and adultery.

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Muslims Are No Different, or Why Bill Maher�s Blood Libel Is Bigotry [View all] rug Sep 2012 OP

He's also a sexist. I have absolutely no use for him. cbayer Sep 2012 #1

Yeah, I don't much care for Juan Cole either. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #2

I am not as familiar with him, though I have likely heard cbayer Sep 2012 #3

I don't think he's been on a lot of live media, I'm not sure Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #29

Thanks for the info. Will check out his site. cbayer Sep 2012 #30

k, but of the 2, Cole is the super-expert on Islam, with his professional reputation on the line patrice Sep 2012 #4

That's why I stay away from Bill Maher cpwm17 Sep 2012 #5

Maher was kicked off of ABC Oregonian Sep 2012 #6

"1/2 of Muslims DO believe that infidels must be killed for insulting the prophet." rug Sep 2012 #7

Fair enough Oregonian Sep 2012 #8

I do. rug Sep 2012 #9

Then we disagree Oregonian Sep 2012 #10

The third world as a term has been meaningless since the fall of the Berlin Wall. rug Sep 2012 #11

That is not what Maher said Oregonian Sep 2012 #12

Oh bullshit. rug Sep 2012 #13

LMAO, nice concession speech Oregonian Sep 2012 #14

That was all I had time for before I had to deal with someone with a pressing matter. rug Sep 2012 #17

Apparently you don't know what the fuck you're talking about Oregonian Sep 2012 #18

"He said half of Muslims "think it is okay" to kill someone who insults the prophet." rug Sep 2012 #19

And you have zero basis to call bullshit Oregonian Sep 2012 #20

Show the evidence. rug Sep 2012 #21

You can't connect the dots? Oregonian Sep 2012 #22

There you go. Let it all hang out. Post the video too. rug Sep 2012 #23

What "pressing matter" do you have now? Oregonian Sep 2012 #24

As a matter of fact, a woman will be here shortly to talk to me about her daughter who is in jail. rug Sep 2012 #25

Is this pouting? Oregonian Sep 2012 #26

No, you just slander a half billion people. rug Sep 2012 #32

It's not slander (did you mean libel?) if it's true Oregonian Sep 2012 #65

Actually, slander is spoken and libel is printed so it must be libel. rug Sep 2012 #73

60% to 90% of Christians if asked, would say the same thing about the Old Testament, sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #52

There is evidence of something very similar Nina7777 Sep 2012 #37

Welcome to DU! rug Sep 2012 #38

Yes, do you want it? Nina7777 Sep 2012 #41

I'd like to read it. rug Sep 2012 #43

I dont have a link to it Nina7777 Sep 2012 #44

I sent you DUmail. rug Sep 2012 #46

That proves the opposite of what you claimed: sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #34

Please note my previous reply to rug Nina7777 Sep 2012 #39

So you admit that all you had before making this assertion was your own opinion. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #42

nope Nina7777 Sep 2012 #47

A rough guess just in Sudan about two million. Leontius Sep 2012 #75

What's your source for these quotes? okasha Sep 2012 #15

Are you unable to do any of your own research? Oregonian Sep 2012 #16

Did you read the Bible quotes about God's violence on that site?? sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #35

Generally when you make claims like that here, links to reputable sources are required. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #27

See Post #20 Oregonian Sep 2012 #28

Thanks for your opinion, without any facts to back it up. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #33

What is it with people and reading fucking comprehension here??? Oregonian Sep 2012 #54

Again Nina7777 Sep 2012 #40

Even the Pew results, which tested only seven countries, disagree with your assertions. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #45

so what if they are more in favor of hell fire? Nina7777 Sep 2012 #48

I live in an America where possibly 50% or more of the population think that sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #49

how many? Nina7777 Sep 2012 #50

Wow, so to you, people who believe that a woman who has an abortion should sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #57

number are not high in opposition Nina7777 Sep 2012 #61

"That's your story, but I have citizenship in one of those countries" sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #79

This isn't bigotry, this is fact Oregonian Sep 2012 #56

My claim of 50% is as valid as yours. You have made a claim and failed to prove it. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #58

LOL, okay Oregonian Sep 2012 #64

The Pew forum study does not back you up. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #69

It's a straw man when you impugn my statements Oregonian Sep 2012 #71

Sabrina, this is a bullshit straw-man Oregonian Sep 2012 #55

The Pew Poll is 'off topic'? I am not the one who introduced the poll airc. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #59

The topic was Bill Maher's reference to muslims believing that insulting the Prophet Oregonian Sep 2012 #62

From the Qur'an azurnoir Sep 2012 #74

That so many Muslims rioted over that stupid movie proves just how fanatical and violent JDPriestly Sep 2012 #31

Actually, as has been pointed out by many observers now, the number of people who sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #36

That many would even demonstrate is eminently contemptible. David__77 Sep 2012 #53

I guess you've been missing all those Christian anti-Muslim hate fests in NYC and elsewhere sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #60

If you have to leave Oregonian Sep 2012 #63

I followed the 'discussion' very well. What I saw was sickening. Nothing different to what sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #68

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #70

ironic Nina7777 Sep 2012 #66

Oh no, I see what is happening in Darfur and have followed that story sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #67

I was never a fan of GW Oregonian Sep 2012 #72

I think it was a WHO estimate of 500,000 children dying in Iraq Leontius Sep 2012 #78

Seems you are 'concerned' about what I 'bring to DU'! Lol, considering you have been here sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #80

In reading this thread, it is very clear defacto7 Sep 2012 #81

It is a well known fact that a debate is over, and won, when one's opponents sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #82

I'll take that under advisement. defacto7 Sep 2012 #83

I like Bill Maher. I think he is right on this subject. demosincebirth Sep 2012 #51

F all the fairy tales Cattledog Sep 2012 #76

He's also more than a bit of a sexist Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #77