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In reply to the discussion: Muslims Are No Different, or Why Bill Maher’s Blood Libel Is Bigotry [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)57. Wow, so to you, people who believe that a woman who has an abortion should
receive the death penalty are 'still more tolerant and respectful of human rights than people who believe two consenting adulterers should be stoned to death'.
So you think that people who support the death penalty for women who have abortions are 'morally consistent'?? Consistent with what? Morally? Is the death penalty moral? There is nothing moral about wanting the death penalty for women who have had abortions. There isn't even consistency for Right to Lifers, read that again 'Right to LIFE' demanding the DEATH penalty for anyone.
Here is what would be morally consistent if you are a Right To Lifer.
1)You would oppose all wars except in the case of an imminent threat that required self defense.
2)You would oppose the death penalty.
3)You would also oppose abortion.
But you cannot support WAR which involves DEATH and the DEATH PENALTY and think that by opposing ABORTION, you support Life. It simply doesn't compute.
2)You would oppose the death penalty.
3)You would also oppose abortion.
But you cannot support WAR which involves DEATH and the DEATH PENALTY and think that by opposing ABORTION, you support Life. It simply doesn't compute.
You do know this is a Democratic forum btw?
'They aren't other people to me'. They live in other countries. Their business is their business. Since when is it our business to tell other countries how to run their affairs? Imperialism is largely responsible for the status of many third world countries, having robbed them of their resources, destroyed their cultures, not to mention killing untold numbers of them over the centuries.
We are NOT an Empire, although the attitude of many Americans lately, mostly right wingers, seem to believe that would be a good thing.
Here, read those numbers again, and remember, this is only 7 countries and even there it's hard to find anything close to the claims you are struggling so hard to make true:
In contrast, Muslims in Lebanon, Turkey and Indonesia largely reject the notion that harsh punishments should be the law in their countries. About three-quarters of Turkish and Lebanese Muslims oppose the stoning of people who commit adultery (77% and 76%, respectively), as does a narrower majority (55%) of Muslims in Indonesia.
Opposition to whippings and cutting off of hands for crimes like theft and robbery and to the death penalty for people who leave Islam is even more widespread in these three countries; 86% of Muslims in Lebanon, 82% in Turkey and 61% in Indonesia are against making harsh punishments for robbery and theft the law in their countries, and 93%, 91% and 64%, respectively, object to the death penalty against those who leave the Muslim religion.
Opposition to whippings and cutting off of hands for crimes like theft and robbery and to the death penalty for people who leave Islam is even more widespread in these three countries; 86% of Muslims in Lebanon, 82% in Turkey and 61% in Indonesia are against making harsh punishments for robbery and theft the law in their countries, and 93%, 91% and 64%, respectively, object to the death penalty against those who leave the Muslim religion.
Those are pretty high numbers in opposition to what you claimed they supported. I wonder if the same poll were done here, how we would fare? Listening to the rantings and ravings from the bigots on the Right here, I think we may have a larger number of people right here who would support the death penalty for anyone who is not a Christian.
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k, but of the 2, Cole is the super-expert on Islam, with his professional reputation on the line
patrice
Sep 2012
#4
That was all I had time for before I had to deal with someone with a pressing matter.
rug
Sep 2012
#17
"He said half of Muslims "think it is okay" to kill someone who insults the prophet."
rug
Sep 2012
#19
As a matter of fact, a woman will be here shortly to talk to me about her daughter who is in jail.
rug
Sep 2012
#25
60% to 90% of Christians if asked, would say the same thing about the Old Testament,
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#52
So you admit that all you had before making this assertion was your own opinion.
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#42
Generally when you make claims like that here, links to reputable sources are required.
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#27
Even the Pew results, which tested only seven countries, disagree with your assertions.
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#45
My claim of 50% is as valid as yours. You have made a claim and failed to prove it.
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#58
The topic was Bill Maher's reference to muslims believing that insulting the Prophet
Oregonian
Sep 2012
#62
That so many Muslims rioted over that stupid movie proves just how fanatical and violent
JDPriestly
Sep 2012
#31
Actually, as has been pointed out by many observers now, the number of people who
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#36
I guess you've been missing all those Christian anti-Muslim hate fests in NYC and elsewhere
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#60
I followed the 'discussion' very well. What I saw was sickening. Nothing different to what
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#68
Seems you are 'concerned' about what I 'bring to DU'! Lol, considering you have been here
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#80