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103. Read it again.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:21 PM
Oct 2012

It's not about lying, it's about passing on what you believe - or disbelieve - whether it's true or not.

It's not about lying, telling your children what you know to be untrue. You wouldn't do that, would you?

superduperstitiion oldhippydude Sep 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #27
Think about it tama Sep 2012 #2
The irony is that belief cannot be forced on anyone. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #3
Hmm tama Sep 2012 #5
Good point. But it is the system which has been imposed on people, not the belief. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #7
Yes tama Sep 2012 #9
You can't make someone "believe" skepticscott Sep 2012 #6
Every child acquires the beliefs of its parents to some degree. rug Sep 2012 #13
So parents should lie to their kids about everything? Oregonian Oct 2012 #96
Read it again. rug Oct 2012 #103
No, get it straight Oregonian Oct 2012 #106
Since you compare parents sharing their religion with their children to rug Oct 2012 #108
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #109
Children gobble it up the same way they gobble up "look both ways" Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #110
I don't see any "faux-skeptics" here. rug Oct 2012 #112
What are "bogus lies? Is there another kind of lie? Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #111
very true PatrynXX Sep 2012 #10
You can't force them to believe, JoeyT Sep 2012 #12
I agree. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #14
Belief cannot be forced. Beliefs most definitely can. Plantaganet Sep 2012 #17
Religion, like all isms, spawns intolerance and bigotry. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #18
Come on, ST, won't you please think of the children... onager Sep 2012 #19
I do think of the children, something we all were at one time. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #21
With all due respect, if you grew up in jolly-old England Oregonian Oct 2012 #58
I hear them loud enough around here. Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #62
The reasons the Establishment Clause are being ignored Oregonian Oct 2012 #68
No argument with you there brother. Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #71
Not at all Oregonian Oct 2012 #72
What am I "dead wrong" about? Agreeing with you? Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #73
"Atheism is preventing nothing." Oregonian Oct 2012 #74
I was responding to your post and agreeing with you. Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #84
Not my experience so far Oregonian Oct 2012 #86
Stick around. You'll get the picture. Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #90
I don't conflate these worthy liberal causes with religious thought Oregonian Oct 2012 #99
I see. You were deluded til age 20. Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #104
Do you consider those atheists, like myself, who embrace tolerant, liberal progressives of all faith cleanhippie Oct 2012 #102
When he says "some atheists", he is talking about you. He probably doesn't realize it yet... cleanhippie Oct 2012 #101
Stop LYING! You got blocked for making a homophobic slur. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #100
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #105
They're the worst. Plantaganet Sep 2012 #20
That's a pretty broad brush LARED Sep 2012 #23
Yep! When the wind is right. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #30
Put that way I have to agree. nt LARED Sep 2012 #40
Excellent point nt LARED Sep 2012 #24
K&R for the toon. Waltons_Mtn Sep 2012 #4
Science, the world, and reality itself have been forcing their beliefs on people for, like, ever mindwalker_i Sep 2012 #8
Science and reality are not beliefs. cleanhippie Sep 2012 #16
Actually they are. humblebum Sep 2012 #22
Science is not a belief... rexcat Sep 2012 #34
It appears that the term "belief" is broader than you would like to admit. If humblebum Sep 2012 #35
What you said was... rexcat Sep 2012 #36
I am twisting nothing. Does the phrase "justified true belief" apply only to humblebum Sep 2012 #37
Bull... rexcat Sep 2012 #38
BULL - Now that's a scholarly retort if I ever did see one. humblebum Sep 2012 #43
Considering... rexcat Oct 2012 #51
You have been proven wrong. nt humblebum Oct 2012 #54
Uh oh, rexcat, humblebum got you. When he says "you have been proven wrong", it's over! cleanhippie Oct 2012 #55
I don't think he really read anything I wrote... rexcat Oct 2012 #56
I, too, was summarily "proven wrong" Oregonian Oct 2012 #59
I have no wounds... rexcat Oct 2012 #64
Thanks! (n/t) Oregonian Oct 2012 #67
Yes, of course we know that "religious belief" is the only kind of belief. Makes humblebum Oct 2012 #63
No, there can also be "belief in Santa, Unicorns, the Tooth Fairy and Lipstick Lesbians" Oregonian Oct 2012 #69
or tax me to pay for your beliefs whether religious or other. nt jody Sep 2012 #11
Good 'toon. The 1st Amendment applies to all. pinto Sep 2012 #15
That cartoon is, shall we say, slanted Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2012 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #26
Certainly I do. But the cartoon has nothing to do with that. Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2012 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #81
And of course you are not biased! rexcat Sep 2012 #31
Never said I wasn't. Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2012 #79
Gee... rexcat Oct 2012 #88
And the point being made is "Christians do not believe in separation of Church and State" Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2012 #92
You have the bigotry thing wrong... rexcat Oct 2012 #114
The cartoon is not representative of reality as LARED Sep 2012 #28
The irony of this is just staggering skepticscott Sep 2012 #29
You might as well... rexcat Sep 2012 #32
Your BS is the only thing staggering LARED Sep 2012 #39
Your hateful intolerance of atheists is showing. trotsky Sep 2012 #41
Or hateful, intolerant atheists. The violins are getting louder all the time. nt humblebum Sep 2012 #44
Speaking of intolerant... rexcat Oct 2012 #57
Yes we all agree calling strident atheists ideologues is hateful intolerance. Well maybe not all. LARED Sep 2012 #45
www.au.org trotsky Sep 2012 #46
Are they strident or reasonable? LARED Sep 2012 #48
Quite strident, by your standards. trotsky Sep 2012 #49
Still no admission of error? trotsky Oct 2012 #91
Nice try...well, actually not so much skepticscott Sep 2012 #42
Do you even read what you post? LARED Sep 2012 #47
"Actually the framers thought the federal government establishing a religion was a very bad idea" Oregonian Oct 2012 #61
"Not only were several of the original framers deists" - I don't consider humblebum Oct 2012 #66
Not only several, but probably MOST Oregonian Oct 2012 #70
If you are speaking of the framers of the Constitution, or more precisely humblebum Oct 2012 #75
LMAO!!! Oregonian Oct 2012 #76
Where did I say that Jefferson was not a Founding Father? Answer: I never did. humblebum Oct 2012 #82
Then one of your weaknesses is being a liar Oregonian Oct 2012 #83
Well one might be tempted to think you're speaking about the Constitution when you are humblebum Oct 2012 #85
And the "framing" of the Constitution Oregonian Oct 2012 #87
Oh yes. Adams was definitely a deist - humblebum Oct 2012 #89
"Then one of your weaknesses is being a liar" and "Your position is absurd." - Nailed it! cleanhippie Oct 2012 #94
"The absurdity in your posts is bordering on pathological." cleanhippie Oct 2012 #93
To be fair Oregonian Oct 2012 #95
Yes, certainly does. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #97
LMAO @ the Stephen Colbert study Oregonian Oct 2012 #98
Pat Tillman, among other war heroes Oregonian Oct 2012 #60
He believes that separation of church and state only goes one way... Humanist_Activist Oct 2012 #50
I would say that's a spot on description. trotsky Oct 2012 #53
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! cleanhippie Sep 2012 #33
You really don't have a clue, do you? mr blur Oct 2012 #52
You are correct. And there is most definitely an agenda. nt humblebum Oct 2012 #65
Certainly an agenda Oregonian Oct 2012 #80
Ah, the logic of the American Taliban! polichick Oct 2012 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Oct 2012 #107
It all depends on what the beliefs are, doesn't it? QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #113
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