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In reply to the discussion: The Black Cat Analogy [View all]both cases of "world outside" seem to be referring to some version of philosophical realism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_realism
However:
Most working scientists hold fast to the concept of 'realism'a viewpoint according to which an external reality exists independent of observation. But quantum physics has shattered some of our cornerstone beliefs. According to Bell's theorem, any theory that is based on the joint assumption of realism and locality (meaning that local events cannot be affected by actions in space-like separated regions) is at variance with certain quantum predictions. Experiments with entangled pairs of particles have amply confirmed these quantum predictions, thus rendering local realistic theories untenable. Maintaining realism as a fundamental concept would therefore necessitate the introduction of 'spooky' actions that defy locality. Here we show by both theory and experiment that a broad and rather reasonable class of such non-local realistic theories is incompatible with experimentally observable quantum correlations. In the experiment, we measure previously untested correlations between two entangled photons, and show that these correlations violate an inequality proposed by Leggett for non-local realistic theories. Our result suggests that giving up the concept of locality is not sufficient to be consistent with quantum experiments, unless certain intuitive features of realism are abandoned.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v446/n7138/abs/nature05677.html
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He ironically typed on his computer connected to millions of other computers in a great web".
Fumesucker
Oct 2012
#4
Religion is telling others there is a black cat and a dark room for money.
Spitfire of ATJ
Oct 2012
#10
As usual with this kind of discussion, you will run us in circles until you find something.
zeemike
Oct 2012
#53
You can have your own opinions but not your own facts. Evolution is factual.
cleanhippie
Oct 2012
#118
I would give any point you made consideration, but since you have demonstrated a below average
cleanhippie
Oct 2012
#120
What you DID present is a regurgitation of a typical creationist argument.
cleanhippie
Oct 2012
#131
Flashlights do use electricity, you know. Your analogy is quite incoherent.
cleanhippie
Oct 2012
#73
Yet in this case, there is a clear definition, and yours comes up well short of the mark.
cleanhippie
Oct 2012
#89
Let me know when you get those lights turned on, because it's still very black in this room.
cbayer
Oct 2012
#44
Well, for starters, they need to be coherent and related to what is being compared.
cleanhippie
Oct 2012
#33
Yes, some who see the world one way are vastly superior to those who see if differently.
cbayer
Oct 2012
#46
You mean like those who call others "dumbasses" when they merely see the world differently?
trotsky
Oct 2012
#50
If they do more than merely entertain the possibility of the black cat in such a situation...
Silent3
Oct 2012
#52
Another requirement for delusion is that it is a belief generally held by no one
cbayer
Oct 2012
#61
If you encounter this problem in real life, make a noise like a can opener. n/t
dimbear
Oct 2012
#71