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2. Paul Depicted Jesus as the Tolerant Liberal Type

Reply to ErikJ (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:10 AM

Nov 2012

Jesus appears as a more authoritarian discliparian type in certain parts of the gospels, such as his diatribes against the scribes and Pharisees and the cleansing of the temple. The minor epistles (such as Jude) and Revelation also have a more authoritarian cast.

Both strands are in the New Testament. In the Gospels, Jesus said "let me who is without sin among you cast the first stone." But he also said "I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

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Was Jesus a tolerant liberal type or an authoritarian disciplinarian type? [View all] ErikJ Nov 2012 OP

Would an authoritarian disciplinarian type have spoken the Sermon on the Mount? patrice Nov 2012 #1

Luke 19:27 trotsky Nov 2012 #6

Which translation? I'm going to have to look that one up. I'm pretty much a Historical Jesus patrice Nov 2012 #8

Pick whatever translation you want: trotsky Nov 2012 #9

True. I wasn't trying to say that it didn't say that, and everything else besides, just that patrice Nov 2012 #10

e.g. Have you ever read a good translation of Aristotle? say his book on logic? ... patrice Nov 2012 #16

It's one of the foundations of modern thought. trotsky Nov 2012 #18

Yes! & therefore one of the examples of why it's sad that almost no one majors in patrice Nov 2012 #20

The Jesus Seminar is attempting to make God in its own image Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #12

IMHO, that's what most of the rest of Christianity does. The conclusions of the Jesus Seminar are patrice Nov 2012 #13

When they throw out the entire Gospel of John, Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #27

Ahem tama Nov 2012 #31

The Jesus Seminar is about which books of the Gospels are authentic or not. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #32

Nope tama Nov 2012 #33

IOW, the point of deconstruction is RE-construction, something New. nt patrice Nov 2012 #15

A part of a parable tama Nov 2012 #30

Paul Depicted Jesus as the Tolerant Liberal Type On the Road Nov 2012 #2

In public, I'd say "liberal", but the private "spank me Jesus" could be fun too. DCKit Nov 2012 #3

HAHAHA ErikJ Nov 2012 #19

"Father forgive them for they know not what they do" Fumesucker Nov 2012 #4

Personally Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #5

Depends on who is telling the stories, I guess. cbayer Nov 2012 #7

I think the biblical Jesus edhopper Nov 2012 #11

Agreed. Power hungry and, hence, fascistic, EXCEPT for John XXIII & Vatican II. patrice Nov 2012 #14

Neither. rug Nov 2012 #17

I tend to agree with this Either that or both. cbayer Nov 2012 #21

+++1 patrice Nov 2012 #22

Simplistic. Igel Nov 2012 #23

I debate a RW Christian who says he was a fire and brimstone type ErikJ Nov 2012 #24

Both AlbertCat Nov 2012 #25

I agree. ErikJ Nov 2012 #28

It depens entirely who was quoted Warpy Nov 2012 #26

Agreed ErikJ Nov 2012 #29