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In reply to the discussion: Atheism 101 Critical Thinking Class Exercise, by request! [View all]RLBaty
(335 posts)143. Trotsky continues his Terry W. Benton impersonation! I noticed, Trotsky!
The gimmick failed with Terry W. Benton.
Your effort likewise fails.
Both of you just used it to your detriment and as a further testimony to your failed efforts to challenge my arguments and the claims I make for them.
I'm still waiting for you to answer your own questions, such as I have done with mine, so that we might really put on a good show for the atheist and unicornist audience here. Some theist might even profit thereby.
Are you up to it, Trotsky?
Bring yourself up to speed by giving your answers and we'll be in a position to
try and build on that good faith effort, if you dare to make it.
Unicorn Step #1:
Do you believe the argument is so constructed that
if its premises are true its conclusion will follow
as true therefrom (i.e., that it is logically valid)?
Trotsky - ???
Atheist Step #1:
Do you believe the argument is so constructed that
if its premises are true its conclusion will follow
as true therefrom (i.e., that it is logically valid)?
Robert Baty - Yes
Unicorn Step #2:
Do you believe that nonbelief in unicorns implies the
truth of the conclusion and that unicorn nonbelievers
implicitly and/or explicitly believe the conclusion
to be true?
Trotsky - ???
Atheist Step #2:
Do you believe that atheism implies the truth of the
conclusion and that atheists implicitly and/or
explicitly believe the conclusion to be true?
Robert Baty - Yes
Unicorn Step #3:
Do you believe that nonbelief in unicorns implies the
truth of the minor premise and that unicorn nonbelievers
implicitly and/or explicitly believe the minor premise
to be true?
Trotsky - ???
Atheist Step #3:
Do you believe that atheism implies the truth of the
minor premise and that atheists implicitly and/or
explicitly believe the minor premise to be true?
Robert Baty - Yes
Unicorn Step #4:
Do you believe that you can take the minor premise
and conclusion of a logically valid modus ponens
argument and construct the major premise therefrom?
Trotsky - ???
Atheist Step #4:
Do you believe that you can take the minor premise
and conclusion of a logically valid modus ponens
argument and construct the major premise therefrom?
Robert Baty - Yes
Unicorn Step #5:
Do you believe that the major premise of the above
argument is properly inferred and properly constructed
from the minor premise and conclusion of the argument?
Trotsky - ???
Atheist Step #5:
Do you believe that the major premise of the above
argument is properly inferred and properly constructed
from the minor premise and conclusion of the argument?
Robert Baty - Yes
Unicorn Step #6:
Do you believe that nonbelief in unicorns implies that
the major premise is true and that unicorn nonbelievers
implicitly and/or explicitly believe the major premise
to be true?
Trotsky - ???
Step #6:
Do you believe that atheism implies that the major
premise is true and that atheists implicitly and/or
explicitly believe the major premise to be true?
Robert Baty - Yes
Sincerely,
Robert Baty
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2 things and then I think I'm done with you if you don't actually respond to what I am saying
Goblinmonger
Nov 2012
#13
I disagree about step #2; it's where you 'step' outside formal logic
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2012
#19
I better warn you: when you get back to logic with step #4, you fall flat on your face
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2012
#21
Challenge accepted previously; still awaiting your anwers to your own questions!
RLBaty
Nov 2012
#98
Robert, your continued attempts to shirk your responsibilities in this dialog are upsetting!
trotsky
Nov 2012
#52
You have still not answered regarding reason/imagination but, from your original post,
intaglio
Nov 2012
#113
Highlight the difference in statemnts. Explain your use of reason/imagination
intaglio
Nov 2012
#115
I try to refuse to chase rabbits and be further distracted by anonymous snipers!
RLBaty
Nov 2012
#116
So, you are still unable to bring yourself to openly, honestly complete Step #1!
RLBaty
Nov 2012
#127
You ought to stop saying "sincerely", because it's obvious you're not (nt)
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2012
#74
Vic, how about coming out and helping out your folks here; they really, really need you!
RLBaty
Nov 2012
#67
Alas, another interloper who doesn't want to take the walk through the exercise...
RLBaty
Nov 2012
#118
I said that everything people think of is the product of their imagination
Anthony McCarthy
Nov 2012
#132
I say I'd rather not have arguments that bad that support my side in an argument
Anthony McCarthy
Nov 2012
#136
Wow. Another example that peddling stupidity is more than a Bible thumper's monopoly
Android3.14
Nov 2012
#131