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trotsky

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71. Why is this place special or sacred? It's not a church.

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:31 PM

Nov 2012

It's a discussion group. As indicated in the group rules, all viewpoints are welcome. If someone is not prepared to have their views challenged, they probably shouldn't be in a discussion group on the Internet.

You have definitely missed the despicable behavior of theists in this group. If you'd like, I could PM you names that you can look for. I have put the two worst offenders on ignore, and improved this group for myself immensely in doing so.

I am still unclear what makes cleanhippie's post a "hate fest" - about all you have is that his choice of avatar might be offensive to some, which I have clearly addressed. You have no coherent response to that, so I would unfortunately have to agree that we are done. You have decided you only want to attack, not discuss.

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Happy Birthday, Carl Sagan! [View all] cleanhippie Nov 2012 OP

Carl would have been 78 years old today pokerfan Nov 2012 #1

Thanks cleanhippie! meeshrox Nov 2012 #2

Do you think dead people can hear you? Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #3

Do you think passive-aggressiveness is a positive quality? cleanhippie Nov 2012 #4

Just curious as to why you are posting to dead people. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #5

So that those of us edhopper Nov 2012 #6

So why post it in Religion? Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #11

You'll have to take that up with edhopper Nov 2012 #14

He can take it up with himself. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #16

Honestly Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #42

Because that is his MO Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #51

What is so gosh darn offensive about "dispel(ling) religious mythology"? trotsky Nov 2012 #54

Nothing is wrong with "dispel(ling) religious mythology". Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #60

Do you think parodies of religious symbols should be banned? trotsky Nov 2012 #65

I'm not into banning things. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #67

Why is this place special or sacred? It's not a church. trotsky Nov 2012 #71

Lol! rug Nov 2012 #73

Unbelievable! I gotta get some air. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #79

I should add something here. trotsky Nov 2012 #84

You may have a good point there. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #86

That's so precious! trotsky Nov 2012 #88

And I got slapped down for objecting to his stirring up shit Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #45

Slapped down how? Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #62

Two posts were judged to be Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #70

Your posts were hidden by a jury of your peers because they were deemed as such. trotsky Nov 2012 #72

We have to be somewhat thick skinned around here. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #78

You should read up on some of FA's posts. trotsky Nov 2012 #83

I read one of his hidden threads. Total bullshit hide. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #85

Wow. trotsky Nov 2012 #87

Double standards seem to skepticscott Nov 2012 #96

Maybe you just shouldn't be so curious. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #15

How nice of you to shit on a memorial thread. trotsky Nov 2012 #7

What tone was that Trottles? Mockery? Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #12

Sagan called religious beliefs a delusion. trotsky Nov 2012 #18

No, it was an opinion. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #19

I see. It's an opinion for Sagan, trotsky Nov 2012 #21

OK, let's have that discussion. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #22

What's wrong with Sagan accepting spirituality? skepticscott Nov 2012 #24

Absolutely nothing wrong with it. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #36

"Spirituality" can mean simply being in awe of natural processes, like sunsets or glaciers. trotsky Nov 2012 #31

Awe is an excellent word. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #32

"Our inability to perceive certain things does not mean they don't exist." trotsky Nov 2012 #33

Lots of people make that claim. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #34

Lots? Really? trotsky Nov 2012 #35

I used perceive in the sense of understanding, learning, grasping. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #37

I don't think I'm comfortable yet moving along. There is some confusion to clear up. trotsky Nov 2012 #38

Let's forget the word "perceive" and use the word "prove". Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #39

Just to clarify, do you now wish to have your text from post #32 read like this: trotsky Nov 2012 #41

Your first paragraph is accurate Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #48

I didn't say anything about DUers. trotsky Nov 2012 #50

Let me know when you want a conversation Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #52

I'd love a conversation. trotsky Nov 2012 #53

No, not to my knowledge on DU Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #57

OK, I'm glad you admit no one you know of holds that straw man position. trotsky Nov 2012 #63

Phew! Finally an answer. Thank you. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #64

It's not about me being confused, it's about you repeating ridiculous straw men positions. trotsky Nov 2012 #66

If encompasses everything that exists, then how can it be finite? Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #68

The questions you are asking indicate you have not done much reading on the subject. trotsky Nov 2012 #69

I read it 30 years ago and I disagree with Hawking on this. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #77

Pardon me for saying this, trotsky Nov 2012 #80

Nah, I don't think so. You can go back to playing with Clean Hippie now. Enjoy! Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #81

Okey doke, if that's all you wanted. trotsky Nov 2012 #82

I suspect you're also going to misuse the word "prove" skepticscott Nov 2012 #44

You are a fine one to be lecturing on the term "prove" when your own humblebum Nov 2012 #47

Lie, Lie, Lie, Lie..again skepticscott Nov 2012 #55

So then, are you claiming that there is more than one way of knowing? Interesting. humblebum Nov 2012 #75

I said "scientific proof" Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #49

Fine, then let's restate your assertion skepticscott Nov 2012 #58

Do you believe the universe is finite? Yes or No Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #61

Here' a hint skepticscott Nov 2012 #91

And I don't give a "rat's fuck" about your lack thereof. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #92

It's been shown where you've lied skepticscott Nov 2012 #93

It has not been shown where I lied. That in itself is a lie. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #94

Your claim in post 34 was a lie skepticscott Nov 2012 #95

So then when an atheist makes the claim that something has indeed been created from nothing, humblebum Nov 2012 #40

Neither skepticscott Nov 2012 #43

Yes, the claim has definitely been made more than once here that something has come from nothing. humblebum Nov 2012 #46

Sunsets are still there Laochtine Nov 2012 #59

Remind me to come back about the fourth week of December, then. meeshrox Nov 2012 #8

And which dead guy will you be saying "Happy Birthday" to then? Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #9

Don't think I need to spell that one out for ya N/T meeshrox Nov 2012 #17

What an offensive post. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #25

He singlehandedly- digonswine Nov 2012 #10

He turned me into a science nut. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #26

I have great regard for the work and ideas of Carl Sagan. humblebum Nov 2012 #13

When people persist in believing skepticscott Nov 2012 #23

Um? "It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is..." - humblebum Nov 2012 #28

If you seriously think skepticscott Nov 2012 #29

Actually "really is" are not my words. Not much room for interpretation there. humblebum Nov 2012 #30

I never said that "really is" by itself are your words skepticscott Nov 2012 #56

Well silly me. When you stated " 'really is' (your words)" - I assumed that humblebum Nov 2012 #74

BTW. Where did I ever claim that you said "I cannot grasp it therefore it does not exist?" humblebum Nov 2012 #76

"the term 'delusion' implies a mental illness" 2ndAmForComputers Nov 2012 #89

Um.No I do not know that. humblebum Nov 2012 #90

In further tribute to the memory of this amazing man. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #20

I watched Cosmos AlGoreRhythms Nov 2012 #27