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In reply to the discussion: The Problem with Religious Moderates [View all]aletier_v
(1,773 posts)1. "religious moderate" is an oxymoran.
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If you legitimize these "other ways of knowing," there's no mechanism to determine which "other way"
humblebum
Nov 2012
#17
I think it has already been acknowledged that you and I disagree on what constitutes knowledge.
humblebum
Dec 2012
#85
No. Actually law, art, entertainment, psychology, cooking, etc. utilize other ways of knowing.
humblebum
Dec 2012
#99
An epistemology that arrives at a conclusion utilizing evidence that is less than totally
humblebum
Dec 2012
#101
If something is not 100% objective, how can one be assured that the conclusion is correct?
prefunk
Dec 2012
#102
Sure. I'll try. Generally the only disciplines that are considered any produce knowledge to the
humblebum
Dec 2012
#106
Since you have proven yourself unwilling (or unable) to give up the straw men,
trotsky
Dec 2012
#118
"But god is still being used to support horrible atrocities - all the time."
humblebum
Dec 2012
#111
Is this the same Sam Harris that considers the elimination of religion more important than the
rug
Nov 2012
#7
The problem is and has always been humanity, as is evidenced by the massive numbers killed
humblebum
Nov 2012
#9
Um, Yeh. other ways of knowing has been discussed and referenced here for a very long time.
humblebum
Nov 2012
#35
That what I thought. You are well aware that we have had these discussions before and
humblebum
Nov 2012
#40
And he will go on making such claims. However there is evidence to the contrary that goes back
humblebum
Dec 2012
#90
And again, your concept of "knowing" is not shared by everyone, to say the least.
humblebum
Dec 2012
#95
AS I recall, you claimed that no examples of other ways of knowing had ever been demonstrated.
humblebum
Dec 2012
#96
In all honesty, it's a matter of personal judgment. Those who approach with an open mind,
dimbear
Nov 2012
#22
For the same reason that I'm not penning a precis of the Gettysburg Address, I'm not rewriting
dimbear
Nov 2012
#27
Harris is addressing liberal religionists, he is trying to convince them to stop
dimbear
Nov 2012
#31
There are fora available right here on DU where Christians don't run into criticism from seculars.
dimbear
Dec 2012
#86
A flawed and slanted view of the state of nonliteralist religious thought is not
Leontius
Nov 2012
#25
The mind of Mr Harris covers almost every topic, like a wide shallow puddle
struggle4progress
Nov 2012
#41
"Imagine" (says Mr Harris to us) "that we could revive a well-educated Christian
struggle4progress
Nov 2012
#42
Reread the quote: Harris imagines "a well-educated Christian of the fourteenth century"
struggle4progress
Nov 2012
#45
I personally do not consider it surprising that the knowledge available today
struggle4progress
Nov 2012
#49
"Perhaps we ought to be surprised instead where we do not find significant advances"
cleanhippie
Nov 2012
#69
You and I have so few productive conversations because we cannot even agree about exactly
struggle4progress
Nov 2012
#71
Our Christian might well have thought the earth round, but it would have been a matter of faith to
dimbear
Nov 2012
#53
"Cecco D'Ascoli, is the adopted name of Francis, or Francesco Stabili; a native of Ascoli,
struggle4progress
Nov 2012
#56
Of course, the execution of Cecco D'Ascoli is quite disgusting and pointless
struggle4progress
Nov 2012
#57
Mr Harris thinks a fourteenth century man today "would be considered a fool to think ...
struggle4progress
Nov 2012
#44
One ought to begin with the facts and proceed thence to the analysis, whereas
struggle4progress
Nov 2012
#48
Just for reference purposes, Dr. Harris received his Ph.D. in neuroscience from Stanford in 2009.
dimbear
Nov 2012
#59
For further reference, dimbear didn't claim the argument was true BECAUSE of Harris' credentials.
trotsky
Nov 2012
#61
And yet he still didn't claim that because of Harris' education, his argument is true.
trotsky
Nov 2012
#63