“Lack of belief” blurs the line between atheist and agnostic

[cbayer]

88. You may need to find an example of something which no one actually knows

(since we agree on that), then make your comparison. Saying you do not know something that lots of other people do know is just not a good comparison.

No need to be so condescending. Everything you are posting here is just your opinion. You do not have the answers and neither do I.

The lack of adoption of a belief in god does not equal atheism. I disagree with your position. Agnostic is not just a modifier. It is a position.

In fact, it is a position that more and more people wish to take, imo. Partly, I think, because they do not wish to be associated with either group, their putative leaders or their baggage. Sometimes because they are highly resistant to being labeled as part of an effort to be placed on a team.

And sometimes they take it because they do believe that there is probably something greater than themselves, but they don't know what it is and don't know whether god would be the right term.

Black and white thinking about theism (e.g. you must be a theist or atheist) is old school and dying, imo. But it continues to be a debate point widely used by some who see this as a team sport, with winners and losers.